My most accurate loads have all been .030" to .011" off. I've never had much luck with them close and I've tried in .224, .244, .264, .277, .284, .308 and .358.

I'm not implying that your rifles don't like them close. Just stating my experience. Each rifle is different. I've also found best accuracy when they're pushed close to max/at max too.

I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!