I've shot 3 bucks with Bergers from a 308. Two were with the 168. Of those two, one was a DRT. The other ran off as if not hit. He only made it 100 yards but it was in brush and nearly dark. No blood. I didn't find him until the next morning. Long night. Above is the example of the 185.

Think I'm done with them. Not to say they don't work, but my experience has been more favorable with the BT.