Used the 168 ttsx this year in a short barrel suppressed .308 winchester. Its running 2550 fps at the muzzle. 9 does and 14 hogs out to 345 yards. Didn't have one not expand and all left good blood trails with rib shots. Its fun to hear the whooop of the bullet at a 50 yards shot! To much fun. I emailed barnes and they told me 1800 fps for the ttsx.