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You'd make a great progressive lieberal!

I really don't know what you're talking about, so I surmise that makes two of us.

There comes a point where a man stops thinking in terms of "What is my country?" and starts thinking in tribal terms: "Who are my people?"

It'll be different for each man at first. Some will look no further than their blood family. Other's will look as far as their neighborhood or the county line.

But given time, he'll look a little further out to see who shares the same upbringing he had, the same religion, language and history, and he'll see pockets of his his people, his tribe, in other places.

Maybe those tribal pockets will gather together one day, like beads of water clumping together. Maybe the tribe will be big enough and strong enough, some day, some glacially-slow day, and manage to carve out a new country.

It's an organic thing, though. A man doesn't just wave a flag and expect everyone to suddenly come to the same recognition that he just had. He finds his tribe, and they find him. And then one day, his tribe has suddenly become something bigger than he imagined it was when he saw the news today.

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One can 'always' count on being called a "liberal" here by certain members of the clique if one simply has a difference of opinion on a particular issue by certain self-professed freedom lovers, patriots, and 'Christians'.

Ain't no different than RobJordan calling 4ager a '"hater" simply because 4ager disagrees with him on a particular issue.

It's Way weak in both instances.

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One can 'always' count on being called a "liberal" here by certain members of the clique if one simply has a difference of opinion on a particular issue by certain self-professed freedom lovers, patriots, and 'Christians' here.

Ain't no different than RobJordan calling 4ager a '"hater" or a "liberal" simply because 4ager disagrees with him on a particular issue.

It's Way weak in both instances.

I haven't read those threads. I do have to do SOME work while at work, though these days there isn't much to do, thus my frequent forays into frivolity.

BUT, I don't need a moderator. We have one, and that's enough.

Not at all. You want to ban the Bible from kids getting a hold of it like it's something evil. The only ones I know of who want to ban those things that for centuries have been held to be sacred are progressives, because they are afraid of morality. It spoils their agenda. o how is that not what you are posting?

I don't think it, or any other religion belongs in our SCHOOLS in a spiritual context...period.

And 'you' equate THAT with "you want to ban the Bible..."...!

How predictable.

Good answers:

Lincoln - Absolutely. His imaginative reading of the Constitution put the nail in the coffin lid of state's rights and a limited federal government.

Women's suffrage: This undoubtedly changed the way elections go down. We would have a fiercer government if politicians weren't elected by touchy, feely, handsomeness, criteria. Are men's votes just as shallow? Perhaps. But an all male electorate would be consistently fiercer and less involved with frivolous, PC issues.

But I think WWII and Specifically Roosevelt had a lot to do with pushing us over the edge. The Greatest Generation lost their fear of big government after 'temporarily' loosening many of our safeguards for the sake of efficient mobilization. Roosevelt wrote the modern era playbook that brought 'machine politics' out of the corrupt northern cities into the federal sphere. He set the example for packing the court, defying Congress, etc.

And, once we let that genie out of the bottle, we have not been able to put him back. Perhaps the Greatest Generation could have put him back, but we were so afraid of The Bomb and needed a big daddy to keep us all safe, and they'd grown used to big daddy, it was comfortable.

More than the media will ever allow us to know, Roosevelt (and the bureaucracy Truman inherited) also slid us down a path of accommodating and facilitating World Communism, from not keeping Stalin in a box at the end of WWII, to slicing Chang Kai Sheck (sp?) off at the knees to pave the way for Mao, to turning his back on IndoChina so Ho Chi Minh could get his communist takeover going, to refusing to fight to win the Korean War.

Yeah, when they mean the same thing, taking them as the same could be predicted.