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well, larry freaking root.....

Mom?

Sonofabitch! Root is back again. He is worse than an ingrown toenail.

Since I'm interested in Frontier History some trivia, all estimates (not mine).

Whites killed by Indians in Pennsylvania alone during the French and Indian War.... 1,500.

Whites killed by Indians on all Frontiers during the American Revolutionary War.... 7,000.

Whites killed by Indians in just three weeks in Minnesota in 1862.... as many as 800, mostly women and children.

???? Sadly, this gibberish is typical of your swings and misses here.

I have stated clearly my position, on all things.

The bottom line is that at the beginning of the War of Northern Aggression, owning slaves was legal. So that makes the United States of America doing illegal things if they fought to free slaves. Another point is that if they made States at gunpoint stay in the Union, that is slavery in its own right. Not talking morals, just laws. miles

Johnny did something wrong so I did it too? Until recently, few kids got a free pass on that position.



More Indians were killed by Indians than were ever killed by Whites. Getting killed by either was a minor factor compared to disease, which carried off NINETY PERCENT.

Currently the official American Indian population stands at around two million. This is complicated by the fact that MOST of these people are partly or mostly European by parentage.

The greatest demographic threat to Indians today is voluntary marriage to non-Indians, if present trends continue there will be almost non left in another 100 years. Their many descendants however will presumably be alive and well.



Oh geeze, LOTS. Not even in the same ballpark.

The Cherokees were forcibly evicted it true.... ...to take possession of other lands where they have since prospered.

The death toll on the Trail of Tears was around 25%. At this point it would be interesting to know the death toll on ANY long term journey of that era. Here in Texas when Noah Smithwick was forced to move to California he reported death along the Southwest emogrant trail to be a common occurrence.

Twenty years later, when the Cherokees split over the issue of Secession, the death toll during the war years was again around 25%, this time mostly at the hands of other Cherokees.

However, though they were confined at times on the Trail of Tears, none of the Cherokees were ever subject to permanent enslavement by Constitutional Law.

As for Wounded Knee, the real story is, as always, complicated.

Not all of the Lakotas agreed with Big Foot's band of holdouts. The Force that brought them in had no intentions of firing upon them before hand. An Indian fired the first shot and the subsequent slaughter during the panicked reaction was over quickly.

Most tellingly, a few days after that tragedy an American Army Officer went to another band of hold outs, accompanied by his Cheyenne Scouts who thought highly of him.

These Lakotas were anxious to come in and avoid bloodshed and rode out to meet him. Among their number was an embittered young man who had recently returned from Carlisle Indian School back East.

Much to the dismay of most present, this young man shot the Army Officer in cold blood, was subsequently arrested, and charged with murder.

He was acquitted, by the White judge, on the grounds that at the time a state of war existed and that was an act of war. A puzzling result if you believe that White people were out to kill Indians.

Birdwatcher

Miles I have no argument.

But I'd still fight on the Union side.

And I value your friendship highly.

Mike

This is really about sweet tea, isn't it?

All men created equal? tell that to John Holmes or Albert Einstein. As to the reality, you like to read, may I suggest THE BELL CURVE...

Then why do you live in Key West, Larry the Gagger? FYI, I'm crushed you haven't "outed" me...

Oh Geeze Jorge, old news.

IQ is largely inherited, some groups are apparently smarter than others.

So what? How many individuals have you met that are groups?

You have spent a lifetime defending a country founded upon the principle that ALL people are entitled to equal freedom and opportunity.

Thank you,

Birdwatcher

Freedom and opportunity? NO QUESTION, but fabricated standards IN ORDER to achieve same? no way. As to the book being "old news", so in the Constitution, the truth is there and the Bell Curve is a statistical sample, meaning, SOME might fall outside the parameters but overall? HINT: THE WHEEL AND WRITTEN WORDS..

How's that old saying go...."God did not make all men equal.....Samuel Colt did!"

Yep, and I've summarized them quite succinctly.

You lack the intellectual honesty and the consistency of position to even acknowledge those things you've stated as your own argument.

Not gonna let this one slide...

I vote Pro-Life first, for gun rights second.

I think that ANY race-based quota or law is a crock.

I think most forms of welfare are a curse, to the recipients above all.

..and I'm just fine with the freedom to amass personal wealth, unless it was done by the entirely vile process of enslaving others.

You can call all that Liberal if you want.



Will I notice?

Despite all of your education most of what you have contributed here has been two WIKI links. Heck, you could have taught all of us.

Anyways....


Vaya con Dios


Birdwatcher

Which is what I've summarized as your position, and your rationales for why in spite of your own assertions about the rights of self-determination and self-governance and in the face of logic and legal fact.

So, lets turn back the clock, and here's a crusty old sorta-Cuban ex US Naval Aviator standing right there in Independence Hall amid the other Founding Fathers...

What wording exactly would you change ?

TFF!

blah blah blah.... yeah right. Name them Larry!

Oh, and by the way, the multiple voices and imaginary people in your paranoid diseased mind are NOT real people. "They" don't count.

Also, since you're so phfucking stupid to realize, no one has the power to BAN aside from Rick Bin. And Rick Bin doesn't BAN whomever I ask him to (I wish!). No, you and YOU alone are responsible for your innumerable bannings you psychotic paranoid delusional gender confused geriatric TROLL!

Tell Karen I said "Hi". We'll be in touch soon!

I don't recall quotas or affirmative actions anywhere, so I'm good...