Home Forums Gear Hunting Trucks and Four-Wheel Drives Chevy or Tundra ?

It's time for me to start thinking about a new truck. I'll use it for basic transportation, work, light hauling and light towing, and hunting.. I've been running F250 diesels since '86 but the cost of diesel fuel plus the cost of the trucks has made me reconsider..
Presently I'm thinking about a 1/2 Chevy or a Tundra. Either will probably be a crew cab 4WD...
Please offer any pro's or con's...

I've got two Tacomas and one Chevy...
05 Taco crew 4.0 auto (wife's)
02 Chev 2500 HD crew 6.0 gas auto
98 Taco ext cab 3.4 V6 stick...
If you're thinking 1/2 ton....go Tundra...may be more $$...I've had good luck with my Chev..now has 58K on it...bought it new...the Tundra is one nice truck !

The only reason I'm thinking 1/2 is for the generally better fuel economy...

Buddy who just blew up his T-100 for the 2nd time JUST picked up a Tundra. Now he wonders what took him so long.

Generaly I would say go Tundra, I have had great luck with Toyota and can not see not buying one of theirs (other than price).

Go with the new 2007 Tundra. They look nice and are a little larger than what my 2006 is.

Hudge

I'm happy with my '06 GMC ext. cab 1500 after 6,000 miles.

Everyone I know that has a Tundra likes it, but with the difference in price and GM's new extended warranty on 2007s, the Chevy/GMC don't look bad at all.

My '06 Z71 w/5.3L engine is doing an honest 19+ mpg highway. Got 20.9 with it on one trip when it hummed along at a steady 65-70 mph for about 125 miles, (it turns up a whoppin' 1600 to 1700 RPMs at those speeds).

A few weeks ago I put about 300 miles on it, spent over an hour sitting still or creeping through a construction zone traffic jam, had the hammer down on the return trip and it still did a hair over 19.

Even does a fair job of neck-snappin' too, if you stick a foot in it.

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Keep a North American in work ---- buy a Chev.

I have a 1998 Silverado with 130,000 on it. 5.7 V8 -- power and torque to burn, and the mileage is pretty good too. Have replaced one water pump, one wheel bearing. That's it. Use it for hauling firewood, hunting, yard maintenance. It gets driven like a truck, and yet the ride is good, and should you want to make some smoke from the back wheels, it'll do that too. Comfortable on the body when we head to Detroit from here -- 1,100 miles -- non-stop.

I have friends with the Toy Auto's and they like them. I just prefer North American in the remote area I live in.

All of Toyota's NA cars and trucks are made right here in the states, so you'll have to come up with another excuse to keep a poor underpaid UAW worker and a poor underpaid business manager working. (Or aleast I believe that's how the story goes.) Sorry.

Well at least that's partially true. It's probably a tad more accurate to say there are one or two Jap vehicles Assembled in the USA, Not "Made in the USA".

In 1987, Toyota constructed an auto plant on part of the 1,500 acres of free land given to them in Georgetown, Kentucky. The auto plant was built by a Japanese steel company using Japanese steel. The U.S. government granted a �special trade zone� so that Toyota could import auto parts from Japan duty-free. Financing was handled by Mitsui Bank of Japan. Total federal and state grants and incentives exceeded $100 million. These subsidies, of course, were courtesy of your tax dollars.

Pearl Harbor, or Hiroshima?

Ya so the Toyos are made here where does the money made on them go. Oh thats right JAPAN.

Yeah, and where does the money that I save on repairs? Oh, yeah, MY POCKET. JMO, Dutch.

Where does the extra money you pay go for over priced vehicles....oh yea, Japan. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

And you don't think American crap is overpriced??? My brother in-law is an engineer at Ford. They are buying cars from Ford at half the dealer sticker price every day, and I know for certain that Ford is still making money on them. Don't tell me that I'm paying inflated prices because I'm buying a Toyota, I'm paying inflated prices becasue all the overpaid UAW yahoos that have too much discresional income to pay $40,000 or more for a pick up that hardly ever gets off the pavement and is in the repair shop 75% of the time, just to keep feeding their own pocket books!!!

Your brother buys at half sticker? I think not. I live in the Detroit area and have several friends and family members a tad bit higher on the food chain than an engineer and they still can't buy at 1/2 sticker. Nice try though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

It seems like the only thing the Chevy fans can say is, you're buying an American truck. And that is true, as it's a Mexican, Canadian and US colaboration.

I've had too many bad experiences and heard of too many bad experiences to buy Amercian cars. I've bought 3 Toyotas in the past 15 odd years, a 4 runner, 4X4 truck (pre-taco) and a Rav 4. All of them were outstandingly reliable vehicles. Change the fluids and keep the tank full and they keep on trucking. The high resale of the Toyotas is also something to consider. If some bonehead wrecks you out, you'll be looking at having a decent enough settlement to replacement the vehicle. My wifes Rav 4 was 6 years old with 85k on the odo, and we got 60% of what we paid for it in the insurance settlement. Look at what you'd get for a 6 y/o American car and it's down around 1/3 new price, at most barely 1/2.

That said, it sounds like the American manufacturers have gotten their acts together and make decent vehicles.

Well, I can only go with the information that I'm given, never have seen any figures. Besides, the newest vehicle in his garage is a Honda anyway.

That being said, American auto's are still highly discounted for employee's, brothers, sisters, cousins, aunts, uncles, etc. Maybe they're a little too generous with the discounts given to family.

Either way, the foreign companies seem to be able to build a pretty solid and reliable car in the United States, inspite of the domestic manuacturers, who still can't seem to produce as reliable a vehicle. I'm afraid, and I'm sure others are too, that American auto's will be going the way of the American airlines. Just becoming another government subsidy where the owners are continuing to reap the rewards of terrible mismanagement while the product remains at the level it was before the buyout.

Who's winning this fight? Not the average American, and that's why Americans are willing to pay a little bit of a premium for foreign cars. IMHO

Like Dude. Your telling us your last post was completely dishonest. If you don't like American auto makers that's your right. Rock on in a rice grinder.
First you say your brother is buying at half sticker which is pure bull puckey and then you say you have no idea what he paid!
I realize things are different in areas around the country. Here many dealers advertise Plan pricing and during certain sales any one can get plan price. Just about anyone can walk in a Dodge dealer and ask for a friends and family discount which will only put you a few k above employee price and well below sticker. I have NEVER bought a jap car/truck but I am told that they don't come much off the sticker much which is already a fair amount more than the American version. Add that to the average national discount off sticker from the big three and you have a pretty hefty price difference. My last truck was around 6k off sticker and about 8k less than the jap version. It's the worst truck I have ever had for petty chit breaking. I'm around 100k and those parts add up to around $1000. Double that for arguments sake by the time I get to 200k and a I only saved a lousy 6k over the jap model. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
If you live in an area that does not advertise plan price here is what I would suggest. Find a truck you like. Call another dealer with a similar truck and ask for the plan price. Go back to the dealer you like and negotiate a price that's 1-2k over plan.
Sounds to me like the whole bone you have to pick is some one might be able to buy less than you. As far as subsidies go I think average Joe taxpayer eats a hella lot more on subsidizing jap autos/tractors etc etc that the american air lines and auto industry combined. Of course that's just MHO.

So how many of you that would buy a Japanese truck would buy a Japanese made Model 70 or 94?

Then I think it is fair to say you don't have any credibility when it comes to discussions about Toyotas and how they compare to an American vehicle. AMERICAN workers assemble those vehicles here in the US and THAT puts dollars in AMERICAN pockets to spend in AMERICAN stores for AMERICAN families.

Sure corporate HQ is in Japan for some companies but Fordolet does business all over the world too and some of their $$ leaves this country also.

Also last I checked Ford and Chev were shutting down plants while Toyota, Hyundai, Kia, and Honda were all BUILDING new one. Puting AMERICAN construction companies (and their workers) to work who then spend that money in AMERICAN stores. When Toy started to build in San Antonio - the call went out for 1000 NEW union electricians. Gotta bet those guys are happy as 9 bucks an hour is the norm job in SA. That isn't even including the vendor places that spring up around a major mfg facility.

I would buy a Japanese built M70, not a 94 as I have 0 use for one.

JMO...

Odd people complaining about foreign made equipment on Chinese and Japanese made computers.