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Originally Posted by curdog4570
"I'm amazed at the groupies here aligning themselves with his "childish" fingernails on a chalkboard rhetoric which turns off voters from both sides of the aisle."

Folks cheer for Trump in spite of his personality, not because of it.

Eastwood and Selleck are [on paper] less qualified for POTUS than Trump is.

But either of them would double Trump's poll numbers if they announced, and said the same things.


Eastwood and Selleck would have never played the POW card either.


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Woody, there ARE no 'credible' GOP candidates, or very few of 'em.
We only need one and there's at least twice that many. grin


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Just cause I live here doesn't mean I agree with Oregon's politics.
All I was pointing out was you never know what the voters will do until they do it. We have people here voting in local and state elections that can't vote in Federal elections go figure that one out!! Actually I am more into the Walker or maybe Cruz(don't think he could win) camp.
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you can like the message without admiring the messenger


I feel the way about Trump currently as I have about Limbaugh for quite some time, I can like 60-70% of what you're saying and still think you're 98% jackazz for the way you deliver your message.


There's other guy's I'd prefer for POTUS, and currently due to the racial strife perpetrated by those occupying the WH, I'd love to see Ben Carson or better yet for me Allen West as prez. Just to get the message back on track, i.e. don't matter yo color homies, just don't break the law, get lippy with LEO, find a job and work it, mind your own biz and your life will be fine.


but I'd certainly be happy with Walker or Cruz or a handful of others. Though truthfully folks, imo, we're too little too late.

to turn this ship around now, the g forces alone might break the thing in half


I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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I didn't mean to say YOU were liberal, but surely you can agree Oregon is and has always been way on the left side of the spectrum.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
DD: The story's pretty accurate according to my friend. J


Thanks for that.

Alfred E. Neuman for Prez!


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Trump is exciting and interesting.

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I'm amazed at the groupies here aligning themselves with his "childish" fingernails on a chalkboard rhetoric which turns off voters from both sides of the aisle.


If that is true, why is he leading?




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He does have valid talking points that certainly give him the present numbers. Personally I don't disagree with some of his message as they resonate to so many tired of the status quo but then again enter the messenger.IMO I think we have a select few savvy candidates waiting for his final self inflicted coup de gras who will step up and make a better showing.



And other than Cruz, who would those "select few savvy candidates" be? And why do you refer to them as "select?"



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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Given Trump's position in the past (and acknowledging anyone has a right to change their minds), you can't unring the liberal bell(s) he rang in the past, not to mention his financial support of Hillary and other democrats, and the fact he's a Wall Street guy and they are solidly in the democrat camp. I like all the stuff he is saying, but I just can't shake the Fifth Column thoughts on him splitting the vote...

That's a great point Jorge. I'm VERY nervous if the best sounding candidate is an NYC'r.

Originally Posted by jorgeI

I didn't mean to say YOU were liberal, but surely you can agree Oregon is and has always been way on the left side of the spectrum.

Always is a long time, but I'd agree it's been the case for last 30yrs. It certainly feels like forever.



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