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Vioxx didn't have abuse/withdrawal contraindications. Reference was to equivalent pain relief.

It did cause an unacceptable higher incidence of heart attacks, thus it was withdrawn. And all NSAID's are being increasingly studied when used long term.

If one can take ASA safely along with being monitored on a regular basis by a good MD, it may be the best/safest option of all.

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Neither one is as good as NSAIDs but they both help.


Double blind study of one?

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I pulled out my PDR for Herbal Medicines and looked up what they listed for anti-inflammatory.

Abscess Root
Barley
California PepperTree
German Chamomile
Jack-in-the-Pulpit
Jacob's ladder
Kudzu
Quince
Sage
Strawberry

I have no personal experience with any of these in the context of the OP, but did find it interesting that the section on "Anti-flatulents" was over twice as long.


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That list of gas remedies must be the contribution from the Pennsylvanians....



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Montana arnica 30x.
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Whole cloves are a good addition to your possibles bag.

Weigh nothin', and will stop a toothache in its tracks, for a number of hours anyway. Just hold the clove by the offending tooth.

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Old fella I know says bee pollen helps. Not used it myself.


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Has anyone tried yellow raisins soaked in gin for a month? Old buddy of mine swears by it. A friend gave my wife some marijuana oil extract (cannabinoid oil?). She rubs it on an arthritic thumb and says it helps a lot.

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Not so called naturals, but this thread has made me do a little comparison of aspirin, Celebrex and Motrin.

One 325 mg aspirin mid morning was the clear winner over Motrin 400 to 600 mg twice daily or Celebrex 100 mg once daily. Didn't give Celebrex much of a test in that it never did much when I have taken it in the past. Motrin was the drug of choice prior to this thread. For myself aspirin beats it easily for pain reduction and subsequently moving easier.

Going to have a talk with the PCP over what he thinks. If any of the Docs care to comment it would be appreciated.

I also slept better when on aspirin and didn't wake up all that much from the aches.

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look for foods with Bromelain. Pineapple works.

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Thanks for getting it back on track tarheel, some a these guys are so ADD you'd think I asked which is best, aspirin or motrin?



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You go and keep suckin down the cheery juice and listening to take 16-20 SL tablets of something else per day. Great choice for compliance that one would be. If all these other suggestions had any significant positive result for advanced post op or arthritic pain the grocery would be empty.

I may be ADD, no not may, but actually am wink and it is an interesting and funny malady once you grow used to it. Damn lucky tho they didn't have Ritalin and such when I was trying my best to not grow up. Heck they probably didn't even have a name for it back then. Other than "Can't sit his azz down syndrome." Or likes "Bright and shiny objects" something.

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Originally Posted by smokepole
This probably belongs in the workout thread but I didn't want it to get lost in there.

I've been using curcumin and tart cherry juice to help with an arthritic ankle. Neither one is as good as NSAIDs but they both help.

Any others out there that you've had good results with?


Potentially (since I don't know you) you are trying to put out a house fire with a squirt gun. Sugar, grain, and processed carbs and the belly fat that they cause are pro-inflammatory. Eliminating them from your diet will likely help you cool the inflammation going on in your body.

I eliminated grain, refined sugar, and peanuts from my diet about 2 months ago. I didn't drink milk but if I had I would have lost that too. Since then, the tendinitis in my elbow has gone (inflammation), the nagging eczema on my hands and feet is 90% gone (inflammation), my feet don't hurt like they did (inflammation) and I don't get a couple of headaches a week (who knows)...haven't had but one since I started. I went through "withdrawals" for the first couple of weeks and felt lousy, no energy. After I got over that I started feeling freakin fantastic! I've lost a few pounds too, but my main purpose for doing this was to see if it would help with the symptoms I was having.

This is a lot more involved that looking for a pill or supplement, you will need to do some research, but I highly recommend it. Not saying this will cure arthritis although some say it will....probably depends on the extent of it.....but not eating these foods seems to knock inflammation in the head.


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And alcohol doesn't help much either. Pretty much inflames any thing it touches. Inside or out.


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Alcohol is a killer if you're trying to build muscle. Your muscles soak up the alcohol instead of the protein they need, and the protein goes to waste. If you're having recovery issues from working out or are battling DOMS, Eat or drink between 20-40 grams of protein within 45 minutes after working out. Whey protein shakes are hard to beat because your muscles absorb the protein faster than say, chicken. But protein bars are great too. Your recovery timevwill greatly improve. Carbs help with this too.

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Hey Smoke, what bullet you going to use for Sheep? I think a shiny one would would work best.

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Originally Posted by RJY66


Potentially (since I don't know you) you are trying to put out a house fire with a squirt gun.


Key words here are "I don't know you." I eliminated the things you listed years ago. And then some, including almost all saturated fats and grain-fed beef (omega 3/6 ratios and all that). I have none of the symptoms you cited, just osteo-arthritis from repeated ankle injuries. I'm seeing a very good ankle specialist, and have tried several prescription and non-prescrption NSAIDs, not just at home but on the trail with a pack on my back.

Which is a roundabout way of saying, if I was interested in people's opinions on nutrition or NSAIDs, I would've asked that question.



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Those of you still drinking coffee are not serious about treating inflammation. I noticed a marked improvement when I quit.


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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by RJY66


Potentially (since I don't know you) you are trying to put out a house fire with a squirt gun.


Key words here are "I don't know you." I eliminated the things you listed years ago. And then some, including almost all saturated fats and grain-fed beef (omega 3/6 ratios and all that). I have none of the symptoms you cited, just osteo-arthritis from repeated ankle injuries. I'm seeing a very good ankle specialist, and have tried several prescription and non-prescrption NSAIDs, not just at home but on the trail with a pack on my back.

Which is a roundabout way of saying, if I was interested in people's opinions on nutrition or NSAIDs, I would've asked that question.


That's great buddy. Just trying to help.


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Originally Posted by RJY66

That's great buddy. Just trying to help.


It's nothing personal. This site has a lot of knowledgeable individuals, and some really good information. But one of the things I don't like about it is the tendency for people to ignore the specific question that was asked and provide irrelevant information. That makes it hard to stay on topic and get relevant information.




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