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Originally Posted by SockPuppet
This guy is causing a lot of waves for this rant against fat/diet/laziness. Sounds like truth to me and I ain't the pinnacle of health. What say you?

*LANGUAGE WARNING*

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=279&v=JXDEe_bg9lM[/video]


That bro has sick tats.


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Originally Posted by mark shubert
Doc told me I was obese - 6'1/2" - 196# (clothed) - and 11" around the wrists. I wear 35" waist Wranglers and 17 1/2 X 37 denim shirts.
The educated idiots must speak.
My main concern is who draws the line defining obesity, mental illness, or any other touchy subject?


Mark! You are far from fat!!!


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Reloder28
A foul mouth is an illiterate mind trying to express itself.


This little gem of Texas logic accounts for all those Commissioned Officers we've been cursed with throughout our nation's history.




Travis


Clark,

I think he's trying to say that profanity is the crutch of the ignorant muthaphooker.

But I don't really know.


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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester

"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Other people may say that this guy is a hater, but in reality this guy is preaching love. Tough love is love and probably a higher form of love than just saying what people want to hear regardless of whether or not it actually helps them.

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Originally Posted by mark shubert
Doc told me I was obese - 6'1/2" - 196# (clothed) - and 11" around the wrists. I wear 35" waist Wranglers and 17 1/2 X 37 denim shirts.
The educated idiots must speak.
My main concern is who draws the line defining obesity, mental illness, or any other touchy subject?


It depends on the quality of your mass. A 6' - 6' 1" man can easily get up to 215 in mostly muscle with working out and eating right.

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Is 24 Hour Campfire anti-fat shaming? A nation of lardazzes is a nation in decline.

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nah not so much that I can tell, I think it's more a lot of the guys here are

anti 20 something punk with a loud mouth that thinks he's got the world figured out because he got skinny genetics and has pushed a lil bit of weight in the gym


I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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Originally Posted by Texas_Mauser
Other people may say that this guy is a hater, but in reality this guy is preaching love. Tough love is love and probably a higher form of love than just saying what people want to hear regardless of whether or not it actually helps them.

So this guy's a motivator...? And he's preaching love...?
Yeah, right...when he's tellin' em' that he "don't give a phuuk" about em', 'that' love is real. And not in some superficial Hollywood sorta way. The love emanating from him is palpable, you could touch it.

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Two things strike me when viewing that video.

1. he is a mouthy wee little skinny fellow.

2. I have seen a better head on a point of beer.


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He reminds me of what the nuns in grade school said 45 years ago. "Empty cans make lotta racket."
Being rude and condescending rarely is the ticket, regardless of the degree of accuracy of sermon.


"Its easier to fool people......Than convince them that they have been fooled." Mark Twain
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You can always tell a man's self worth when his tit's are bigger than a woman's and his belly is the size of a bean bag chair.

But their response is always, "It's my genetics."


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Originally Posted by krupp
You can always tell a man's self worth when his tit's are bigger than a woman's and his belly is the size of a bean bag chair.

But their response is always, "It's my genetics."


Is that correct...I have worked with an awful lot of big heavy fellows that worked like Trojans, and have worked with enough skinny and muscle bound fellows who couldn't raise a sweat in an iron lung to not make broad sweeping generalisations like you have just done.

Seen a few big fat fellows beat the living piss out of fellows that looked like a million dollars to know that I no longer judge a man on how he looks.


Have a nice day.


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Of course genetics have nothing to do with it, thats why all of todays girls are 5-8 with blue eyes and men are 6-2 with wavy dark hair.
All you have to do is wish it, the part I don't understand is why people choose to die of cancer, I would have thought more folks would have chosen dying in there sleep.


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Of course genetics play a part, but there are folks out there with "bigger genetics" in their family that were big themselves and then got it under control. It's nuts to say genetics dont' matter, but also to say that genetics are the only thing that matter. Some do use the genetics issue as a crutch when food and activity are also a big part of their problem. Some have legit problems with health because of their inherited issues, but they're not the majority. Over 1/3 of the citizens of Louisiana and Mississippi are classified as obese. That ain't just genes at work, that's Popeye's Chicken and Little Debbie too.....


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Genetics is huge. You can take 100 people, feed them the exact diet and have them do exactly the same work over a few months time. Some will lose weight, some will stay the same and others will gain weight. Some people have bodies that are far more efficient.

Down through history food has always been either plentiful for short periods, or scarce at other times. Those that were more efficient served a better chance of survival through the lean times.

But in modern times with plentiful food at all times those people really have to work a lot harder to maintain a healthy weight.

Not saying there isn't personal choice, but some people have to work a lot harder than others. Most people who are at that perfect healthy weight never give a thought about doing so. It just comes naturally.

Most of the folks I know who are "heavy", work very hard and really have to put a lot of thought into their diets just to stay out of the obese category. Some simply give up and no longer try. I don't know anyone who is obese that really want to be there.


Most people don't really want the truth.

They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.
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"Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look. He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous."

Later

"Seldom he smiles, and smiles in such a sort
As if he mocked himself and scorned his spirit
That could be moved to smile at anything.
Such men as he be never at heart’s ease
Whiles they behold a greater than themselves,
And therefore are they very dangerous."


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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
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Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Originally Posted by JMR40
Most of the folks I know who are "heavy", work very hard and really have to put a lot of thought into their diets just to stay out of the obese category.


Most of the heavy folks I know don't spend that much time on their diets. They might make smarter choices sometimes, but aren't regularly making the best choices, not 3/4 of the times they are making a food choice. On the other hand, most of the folks I know that look "impressive" eat like it is a mission, sticking to their guidelines at least 80% of the time, eating not only "better choices" but the best choices out there. I get that folks with certain advantageous body-types are more likely to maximize their diets, as it works really well and really fast for them and they see results. It's less rewarding for those who struggle to get slower results. Still, if "most" of the big folks in the country ate like it was a job, it would make a huge difference. People don't want to eat grilled chicken and broccoli 10 times a week, but it works like gangbusters. Many decide to eat the Lower Fat Snack Crackers instead of the Doritos they were eating and then complain that they are "eating healthy but it doesn't work." Their diet is still crap and not what they need to get the results they want. The food industry ain't exactly helping here. They make a lot of money off fat people....


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Originally Posted by krupp
You can always tell a man's self worth when his tit's are bigger than a woman's and his belly is the size of a bean bag chair.

But their response is always, "It's my genetics."


Is that correct...I have worked with an awful lot of big heavy fellows that worked like Trojans, and have worked with enough skinny and muscle bound fellows who couldn't raise a sweat in an iron lung to not make broad sweeping generalisations like you have just done.

Seen a few big fat fellows beat the living piss out of fellows that looked like a million dollars to know that I no longer judge a man on how he looks.


Have a nice day.


Sorry you don't like my generalizations but your life experience is totally different than mine must be. I think it boils down to stamina and mental state ( if it does not kill you it only makes you stronger) but I will put my money on the soccer player over the sumo wrestler any day when it comes to staying power. Besides are we talking about real work or a hot dog and pie eating contest?



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He's right and you'll only be offended by that rant if you are fat piece of schit. Sorry, but losing weight is as simple as not eating and getting up and doing something. If you can't do it, you either don't want to or you have no discipline.

We are so fat as a nation that when we see people of normal weight today, we think they look sick. Go pull out some old family photos from the 70s and earlier and see how skinny the men were in those photos. Nowadays people would say they are skinny and weak. But look at them, and I'm talking about men's men who were construction workers, loggers, and farmers. There were skinny as schit by today's standards.


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No amount of preaching or yelling will convince any one to try and lose weight. You gotta want to do it. Now once you start it helps to have support from friends and family.

Genetics is a huge part of obesity. I have always been a big man. I always noticed that most of normal sized people I know ate as much or more than I did plus most of them drank a lot of beer as well.

I have lost a lot of weight in the last 5 months and it has taken a lot will power and a lot of walking. I figure I take in an average of 1500 calories a day. That is about equal to one double quarter pound cheeseburger meal at mcdonalds. So those calories a day plus an average of 20-25 miles a week of walking on top of whatever I walk at work or at home going about daily business is what it takes for me to lose 15-20 pounds a month.

It takes a lot of time to walk that much extra it takes a lot of time and extra money to plan healthy meals and buy healthy food. Now at some time I am gonna have to invest in gym membership and more time to go there and work out. I need to get in more cardio and start on some weight training .

It is easy to see how people get discouraged about weight loss. Its not as easy as just "quit eating" it takes a plan and time and money to execute the plan. But having someone who has never been obese yelling and cussing at you to lose weight aint gonna do anything but discourage someone. My two cents.

Ive lost 89 pounds since 3-5-15 Hoping tomorrows weigh in will get me past the 100 lb mark.

And not all fat people are lazy. I have seldom been outworked and have always done my fair share and more at any job or activity. But as I get older It just got harder to keep up so it was time for a change. Best decision I have made.


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