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Anyone seeing any prices yet?

Around $750 give or take a few bucks either direction.

Why do some of you guys like the 480 over the 454, is it the recoil? What I really like about the 454 is what a lot of you have said in that it allows the shooter to use 45 Colts. I will let you guys know if these guns are readily available or not and get back to you guys.

The .454 is obnoxious in recoil and blast; just downright nasty.

The .45LC will take out anything you ever need to shoot with a handgun, and do it so mildly in comparison the .454 that it's really shocking.

The .480 is less obnoxious than the .454 and makes a bigger hole; almost like an overgrown .45LC.

Is the "obnoxiousness" based on velocity and or bullet weight? I guess I need to do some homework on the 480, but the big selling point of the Casull is the ability to shoot the other 45s.

What he said!

Holy crap.

I take that as an extraordinary compliment.

Max KNOWS big bore handguns to a degree that I can only daydream about.

Based on 65,000 PSI factory loads and velocity and bullet weight.

I personally don't think the 454 recoil is bad at all and if you can't stand the recoil from the 454 I would advise you to stay completely clear of the 500 Smith

I have had both and shot both extensively. The .500 Smith fits in an out-sized, over-weight "revolver," whereas the .454 fits in a normal-sized revolver, and I personally don't think the .500 is bad at all. The brake on the X-frame works well, and the gun weighs 4 1/2 + pounds. The .454 in light package like the Bisley is a nasty creature with heavy bullets and high pressures. JMHO.

yikes! might have to revisit the 480 Ruger, although the 45 Colt option of the Casull still carries a lot of weight...

Skip the Casull.

Either get a 6-shot .45LC or a 5-shot .480.

Jorge,

I have owned two .454's - a 6'' Freedom Arms and a 7 1/2'' Ruger Super Redhawk. When the kids came along and I cut the gun collection down, they both went down the road and I kept a standard Blackhawk in .45 Colt. I've missed both though. I agree that the top end .454 loads are obnoxious, but no one says you have to run the .454 balls to the wall. My favorite .454 loads are a 300 grain bullet at about 1400 fps. That's a a little bit more than you can get from a 6 shot .45 Colt, but not in the "this sucks!" range.

If you're already setup to load .45 Colt and want to keep life simple, the .454 makes a lot of sense. You can share bullets between the 2 and use your standard .45 Colt loads for light practice in the Casull. If you don't want to buy any .454 brass, there's loading data out there for .454 level loads in .45 Colt brass. Just be sure those loads don't make it into your Vaquero.

If I was only going to own 1 single action, it would be a standard Blackhawk in .45 Colt. As others have said, it's lighter and more user friendly. However in your shoes with a Vaquero in hand and wanting a dedicated hunting gun, the new Ruger Bisley .454 makes perfect sense. I will buying one as a companion to my 5.5'' Blackhawk .45 Colt as soon as I can scrape the funds together.

Jorge,

I remember reading an article by Ross Seyfried on his hunting revolver. It was a Ruger Bisley Vaquero with a 5.5" barrel in 45 Colt. He loaded it with 325gr WNFP over H110 powder for about 1200 fps velocity as I recall. You could try a similar load in your Vaquero.

Thanks for all the inputs, gents. I guess it's up to me. I did find this:

44 Mag - 22.343 ft-lbs of recoil

.480 Ruger - 39.2 ft-lbs of recoil

.454 Casull - 51.165 ft-lbs of recoil

Also, is the 40 Ruger holding it's own? the Casull's been around forever.

The 6 shot 45 colt can do 1400 with a 325 hard cast. Buffalo Bore and Underwood both hit 1400 out of my 6" 6 shot 45 colt.

The 480 appears to be gaining in popularity as time goes on.

C'mon guys, no such load as a .45 Schofield, it is the .45 S&W. Yes, it can be shot from the .45 Colt and .454 but no ammo was ever designated as Schofield.
Go to the store and find some???? It was the .38 S&W of the .45's.
I agree with Whitworth except I don't like a Bisley. But a five shot .480 is my choice but I want a hog leg.

Easy.

Here's MidwayUSA for you, with 5 different loads via three different companies, all marked .45 Schofield -

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?dimensionids=10062

OK, did not know some load that but it is still the S&W cartridge. Schofield is the gun designation due to the lockup system designed by general Schofield.
Maybe it is because of re pros made today.