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One of the best things about Trump is,..he's gonna bring those high top caps back in style... I had one back in the day that said "CATERPILLAR". Chicks dug it.
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I had a few of them.
My old man was a heavy equipment operator.
"Cat Hats" were a constant around my house.
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. I - idiots O- out W- walking A- around ....Iowa.
I work harder than a ugly stripper....
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I had a few of them.
My old man was a heavy equipment operator.
"Cat Hats" were a constant around my house. My old man was a Lutheran minister...he wore a hat that had a marijuana plant on the front and didn't have a clue what the logo was. Good times.
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I suspect he has always been surrounded by yes-men.
I suspect, you suspect wrongly quite often. That has always been the story on Donald.
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I MISS SARAH
“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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my appreciation for the Trump is that he gives us a glimpse of living outside the box. that is, he has openly challenged the status quo.
he is offering an alternative to the 19 trillion debt, and growing to 30 trillion while the rank & file career politicians moan, whine, rub their hands, and do absolutely nothing.
I wish we could do better, as long as we are wishing, but who is better than Trump and hasn't offered to enter the race yet?
this may be last race that republicans have any chance of ever winnng again, unless some of trump's proposed policies are implemented.
who can imagine a world without the republican party being run by the elites?
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I suspect, you suspect wrongly quite often.
That has always been the story on Donald. Good of you to admit it.
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We have all been bitching about the status qoe - now here comes someone that looks like he is actually going to do something about it. He scares the hell out of both the dems and republicans, calls them like he sees them and is willing to stick his neck out and try to fix some of the Washington bs we are all sick and tired of. Not sure if I'll vote for him in the end, but I sure like the way he makes the career politicians squirm. Yup. People bitch about the same old same old from the GOP, then there is someone who offers what they supposedly have been waiting for and it turns out they are comfortable with the way things are then the possibility of change. Trump hasn't scared anybody yet. "Stumped" a few maybe, because they just can't believe what they're seeing. I'd be happy to vote for Trump vs. Democrat, but the smart money believes Trump is a popular as he is gonna get because 99% (literally)of those polled know everything about him and nothing about the other candidates. Again, my biggest fear is that those who believe Trump is America's savior, and only chance, are going to disengage if Trump gets kicked to the sideline. If they do, it will indeed, be the "same old same old".
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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The republican candidate I'm 100% behind is Dr. Carson. That said I don't think the electorate is bright enough to see that he is both smart and principalled enough to actually be someone who could turn things around and he's too decent of a man to make the fire brand speeches to get the medias and voters attention.
As far as Trump, I'm willing to give him a shot if he gets the nomination and perhaps he is the only one that can start to turn this mess around, though there is no gurantee he will.
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We have all been bitching about the status qoe - now here comes someone that looks like he is actually going to do something about it. He scares the hell out of both the dems and republicans, calls them like he sees them and is willing to stick his neck out and try to fix some of the Washington bs we are all sick and tired of. Not sure if I'll vote for him in the end, but I sure like the way he makes the career politicians squirm. Yup. People bitch about the same old same old from the GOP, then there is someone who offers what they supposedly have been waiting for and it turns out they are comfortable with the way things are then the possibility of change. Trump hasn't scared anybody yet. "Stumped" a few maybe, because they just can't believe what they're seeing. I'd be happy to vote for Trump vs. Democrat, but the smart money believes Trump is a popular as he is gonna get because 99% (literally)of those polled know everything about him and nothing about the other candidates. Again, my biggest fear is that those who believe Trump is America's savior, and only chance, are going to disengage if Trump gets kicked to the sideline. If they do, it will indeed, be the "same old same old". I'm not sure I'd say the smart money is saying that
have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings
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I'm afraid the country is at or near the tipping point.
they want the gov't to do it all for them. I mean, afterall that's why they pay taxes, right?
so, we're subcontracting with gov't to make all these decisions for us. and we can just go on, and have our Life, and enjoy living. don't trouble us with all this mundane stuff. we have a powerful federal gov't that is designed to offer us cradle to grave security.
trying to disrupt the boat is just trouble-making.
we don't need no stinking change nothing happened when the federal debt went from 9 trillion to near 19 trillion. y'all are just howling at the moon, nothing more. and if the federal debt goes to 30 trillion then fine if I have a job, a mortgage, 2.5 kids, a commute and a late model car. all this talk about change is crazy talk, I tell you. crazy talk.
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The republican candidate I'm 100% behind is Dr. Carson. That said I don't think the electorate is bright enough to see that he is both smart and principalled enough to actually be someone who could turn things around and he's too decent of a man to make the fire brand speeches to get the medias and voters attention.
As far as Trump, I'm willing to give him a shot if he gets the nomination and perhaps he is the only one that can start to turn this mess around, though there is no gurantee he will. Dr.Carson seems to be an awesome man. A lot will depend on how much money his campaign has, and hopefully there are no Bill Cosby moments in his past.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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The republican candidate I'm 100% behind is Dr. Carson. That said I don't think the electorate is bright enough to see that he is both smart and principalled enough to actually be someone who could turn things around and he's too decent of a man to make the fire brand speeches to get the medias and voters attention.
As far as Trump, I'm willing to give him a shot if he gets the nomination and perhaps he is the only one that can start to turn this mess around, though there is no gurantee he will. Dr.Carson seems to be an awesome man. A lot will depend on how much money his campaign has, and hopefully there are no Bill Cosby moments in his past. Why didn't you use Herman Cain instead of Cosby? Bigot.
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The republican candidate I'm 100% behind is Dr. Carson. That said I don't think the electorate is bright enough to see that he is both smart and principalled enough to actually be someone who could turn things around and he's too decent of a man to make the fire brand speeches to get the medias and voters attention.
As far as Trump, I'm willing to give him a shot if he gets the nomination and perhaps he is the only one that can start to turn this mess around, though there is no gurantee he will. Dr.Carson seems to be an awesome man. A lot will depend on how much money his campaign has, and hopefully there are no Bill Cosby moments in his past. Why didn't you use Herman Cain instead of Cosby? Bigot. Clarence Thomas.
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I'd vote for Trump. After all, I did cast a vote in my first national election for Goldwater.
The things that come to those that wait may be the things left by those who got there first.
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Besides being a bombast and egomaniac who will be extremely difficult to work with, Trump is incredibly far to the Left on numerous issues that would normally disqualify any other candidate from claiming the appellation "conservative" (or avoiding the epithet "RINO"), but since Trump speaks boldy he seems to get a pass from many who should no better. Like Socialist Bernie Sanders, Trump is generally opposed to free trade. He is a protectionist who believes strongly in tariffs. He thinks affirmative action is just fine, thinks Planned Parenthood is just fine. He was a huge fan of Hillary Clinton (before he was against her) and has donated huge sums of money to her election efforts and to the Clinton's foundation. He was a huge fan of abortion rights (before he was against them). He was once a registered Democrat who favored a massive, one-time 14.25% tax on the wealthy and has also been a registered Independent (he changed from Republican to Independent and then to a registered Democrat in 1999-2001). He has said he's "generally opposed" to gun control, but fully supports an assault weapon ban. He's been fairly consistent in his support of "universal health care".
Although Ford Motor is an international corporation which employs more people outside America than within, he thinks the government is better qualified than Ford to decide where it should build its manufacturing facilities to give the most return to its shareholders and if Ford disagrees with the government, then Trump will punish it with a punitive tariff.
He correctly opines that we need to secure the Mexican border with a fence or wall but his policy position on immigration includes all kinds of ignorant, asinine, counter-productive proposals that no serious opponent of open-borders would ever support.
Boiled down to its essence, some s0-called conservatives support Trump in spite of his egomania, in spite of his bombast (his lack of decorum and obvious inability to be an effective political leader), in spite of his long-standing status as a beneficiary (and defender) of crony-capitalism, in spite of his penchant for bankruptcy and his undeniable Leftism that quintessentially disqualify him from the label "conservative" because of he seems to have given the middle finger to the ruling political class. There really is no other discernible reason. His supporters get off on that. And for the price of that "thrill running up their leg) they want to saddle the Republican Party with an establishment, big-government crony-capitalist with a history of far left positions who cannot win the general and who, if he does, will not hesitate to support the leftist positions which are today and which have in the past, been near and dear to him.
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The republican candidate I'm 100% behind is Dr. Carson. That said I don't think the electorate is bright enough to see that he is both smart and principalled enough to actually be someone who could turn things around and he's too decent of a man to make the fire brand speeches to get the medias and voters attention.
As far as Trump, I'm willing to give him a shot if he gets the nomination and perhaps he is the only one that can start to turn this mess around, though there is no gurantee he will. Dr.Carson seems to be an awesome man. A lot will depend on how much money his campaign has, and hopefully there are no Bill Cosby moments in his past. Why didn't you use Herman Cain instead of Cosby? Bigot. The error of recency.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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Trumps "Conservatism" is questionable, no doubt. Hell, a lot of his past history is liberal of the highest order. He's a parody, a caricature if you will, of a candidate in a party in dire need of being marginalized, criticized, lampooned and ultimately wrecked.
He may be no conservative, but neither is Bush, Kasich, Carly or any of the others aside from Cruz. THAT's the point. The lack of conservatism in the GOP is what created Trump's candidacy, what fuels it, and what protects it. A glaringly non-conservative impostor leads the polls because he flings sheit the best, and people love it because they already felt like the entire GOP primary season is a mockery of the conservative voter, so why not get behind the biggest loud mouth that's currently speaking truth, and putting real issues on the table for discussion, and damn the MSM and GOP.
If he does go Independent, maybe he'll get the Democrat elected, maybe not... but at this point, intellectually honest Democrats are preferable to the GOP, because you get the SAME scumbag, just one with the balls to admit how scummy they really are.
Doesn't really matter what with the McConnell-Boehner-Emperor Roberts cabal running the other two branches, since the Democrat agenda rules the nation and will continue regardless of who is POTUS. So why not have The Donald running around breaking crap, even if he's just wearing a conservative costume?
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Trumps "Conservatism" is questionable, no doubt. Hell, a lot of his past history is liberal of the highest order. He's a parody, a caricature if you will, of a candidate in a party in dire need of being marginalized, criticized, lampooned and ultimately wrecked.
He may be no conservative, but neither is Bush, Kasich, Carly or any of the others aside from Cruz. THAT's the point. The lack of conservatism in the GOP is what created Trump's candidacy, what fuels it, and what protects it. A glaringly non-conservative impostor leads the polls because he flings sheit the best, and people love it because they already felt like the entire GOP primary season is a mockery of the conservative voter, so why not get behind the biggest loud mouth that's currently speaking truth, and putting real issues on the table for discussion, and damn the MSM and GOP.
If he does go Independent, maybe he'll get the Democrat elected, maybe not... but at this point, intellectually honest Democrats are preferable to the GOP, because you get the SAME scumbag, just one with the balls to admit how scummy they really are.
Doesn't really matter what with the McConnell-Boehner-Emperor Roberts cabal running the other two branches, since the Democrat agenda rules the nation and will continue regardless of who is POTUS. So why not have The Donald running around breaking crap, even if he's just wearing a conservative costume? Of course Bush and Kasich are not conservative (or not trustworthily conservative). But the idea that a lack of conservatives in the primary is what fueled the rise of Trump, viz., the rise of a candidate with virtually no conservative bonafides is an utter non sequitur. Are not the conservative bonafides of Cruz, Carson and Paul unimpeachable? Has any candidate fought the good fight of conservatism more effectively (in their area of governance) than Scott Walker? Moreover, Fiorina's conservative bonafides are equally beyond reproach. What impressed me about her is that when she ran in Kalifornia, she stayed true to her position on abortion even though it was very unpopular in Kalifornia. No offense, but your position doesn't seem to me to make any sense. BTW, I do think the Trump candidacy is an expression of a lot of people giving the "Chamber of Commerce GOP" (the GOP establishment) the middle-finger. That's all very well and good to a point (they deserve it), but not to the point of nominating a Trump. Jordan
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