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If the women made it through the same standards as the men, same standards as it was before, congrats to both women and all the men. They earned it.


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Originally Posted by Hawk_Driver
I have no issue with them going to the course. Going to Indian country with a Spec Ops unit is a different story.

I know of the LT that made it, she sat at the table next to me when she went thru the Instrument phase of flight school. Her IP was a retired 160th pilot, had nothing but good things to say about her. A good friend of mine went to PLDC and flight school with her dad, a -64 driver. Jerry said he is a hard charger as well.

Even if they did lower the standards for the chicks to get thru, they still made it thru things that almost none of you could get thru.

Flame me all you want, I dont really care. I dont necessarily agree with cracks on the front lines, but its not my decision.


You hit it on the head 99% of these would wash out the first day... These Ladies did something in my 17yrs in the Army I never had a desire to do, these guy sitting here talking tough don't know half the truths. As of now the word on the street the guys that graduated said it was extremely hard some are saying probably one of the hardest ranger schools cause the RI were trying to get everyone to quit. They tried and tried and out of that class 90 plus guys 2 girls made it through... Also Deflave don't forget about the girls on the hot-shot crews fighting fires...


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Study after study has shown putting women mixed with men in combat is a very bad idea.


Ya, women in good shape in their prime estrogen years working in close proximity to exceptional and in-shape young men. What could possibly go wrong?


Over at Lackland AFB not far from where I'm at I'm told they had to put cameras in the stairwells of the training barracks, it seems these has become hot spots for quick hook-ups between the residents of different floors.

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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Over at Lackland AFB not far from where I'm at I'm told they had to put cameras in the stairwells of the training barracks, it seems these has become hot spots for quick hook-ups between the residents of different floors.


And the sick bastards want to watch?



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My unit spent 6 MONTHS in the field. Jorge,Kamo Gari Webster Parish and Woody and 4ager can attest to how much combat we were in,they read the reports. Stress levels are off any known scales and tensions between us were high as it was. Water was for drinking. Showers were monsoon rain or a waterfall,otw hygiene was very difficult. 100 lb+ rucksacks were our "house on yer back". WOMEN would NOT been welcome and a SEVERE detriment to unit morale and cohesiveness.

There's only one way this is going to play out.

They'll be put in the field. They will not do well.


No idea, how do the Israeli women do?


The casualty rates for units with women were SIGNIFICANTLY higher as the men exposed themselves more to protect the women when they should not and need not have. The women didn't set the world on fire with their combat abilities either. The Russians used them in WWII and canned the idea of women as frontline combat troops fairly quickly. The VC used women in indirect fire units (mortars and rockets) but not as frontline fighters. They learned early on.


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How much did they have to water it down for them to pass?


I'll accept they did the same course as the previous class.

As long as everybody else accepts bleeders make schitty cops, firemen, soldiers, sailors, pilots, politicians, and opinion givers.

(This list is not all inclusive.)

Dave

I took the local firefighter test and they had it dumbed down the first time and by the second it was just stupid. They got what they were set out to get. My BIL said they stood guard on the engine at a fire pretty good. He's since changed his mind after they told him to shut up.


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Jump school became a joke because of lowered standards


I'm not qualified to criticize the standards because I have never served in the military. That being said....

I attended a graduation ceremony at Fort Leonard Wood this past summer, my nephew, a newly-commissioned 1st Lt. in the Reserves, was graduating from an officer's field training course. Several women in the group of maybe thirty.

I'm recalling six sets of jump wings, four of them were worn by women. My nephew told me that, while he wanted to do it, he would have a hard time getting approved due to budget constraints as it is not essential for his MOS.


(FWIW, he's already been skydiving with my 82 yo mom grin)

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They even went so far as to search for a lesbo woman of Indian heritage that was most unqualified for the job.
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Hey! I have a great, money-saving idea!

Instead of springing for expensive electric or natural gas to heat you home this Winter, just start burning pieces of your house. It's FREE!

smirk That makes about as much sense as women in combat.


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Wouldn't it work just fine if they had an all-female unit of Rangers to fight together?

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Impressive accomplishment ladies.

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If females are ever allowed to actively participate in direct combat I can foresee a lot more medals being awarded to male soldiers posthumously.


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Sounds like a lot of pee pee on the parade. I am proud of, and support ALL of our soliders. To these women I say WELL DONE.


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Originally Posted by Barkoff
Well I'll make this distinction, I admire these gals for giving it a go, I'm sure they play no part in the politics of it all, rather they are just reaching as high as they can reach.
They are full fledged participants in it. They are willing tools.


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Originally Posted by BarryC
Hey! I have a great, money-saving idea!

Instead of springing for expensive electric or natural gas to heat you home this Winter, just start burning pieces of your house. It's FREE!

smirk That makes about as much sense as women in combat.


Isn't that what Obummer is doing when he pushes for this agenda.

I am not saying that the women did not deserve the positions but it does fit the current agenda of our goobrtment

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Congrats to the gals. That's a big accomplishment.

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Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by Hawk_Driver
I have no issue with them going to the course. Going to Indian country with a Spec Ops unit is a different story.

I know of the LT that made it, she sat at the table next to me when she went thru the Instrument phase of flight school. Her IP was a retired 160th pilot, had nothing but good things to say about her. A good friend of mine went to PLDC and flight school with her dad, a -64 driver. Jerry said he is a hard charger as well.

Even if they did lower the standards for the chicks to get thru, they still made it thru things that almost none of you could get thru.

Flame me all you want, I dont really care. I dont necessarily agree with cracks on the front lines, but its not my decision.


You hit it on the head 99% of these would wash out the first day... These Ladies did something in my 17yrs in the Army I never had a desire to do, these guy sitting here talking tough don't know half the truths. As of now the word on the street the guys that graduated said it was extremely hard some are saying probably one of the hardest ranger schools cause the RI were trying to get everyone to quit. They tried and tried and out of that class 90 plus guys 2 girls made it through... Also Deflave don't forget about the girls on the hot-shot crews fighting fires...


I did some training with a gal on a hot shot crew from CA this year. I'm not in shape to speak of really, and I had 30 years or so on her.... but even in our heat and humidity, she never looked like her pulse ever rose..... while me, I held out all revolutions, and could keep going but was not enjoying it.


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Originally Posted by Angus1895
Sounds like a lot of pee pee on the parade. I am proud of, and support ALL of our soliders. To these women I say WELL DONE.




Audie Murphy was turned down by both the Navy and the Marines.
The Army was the only outfit that would take his enlistment.
Doubt he would have made it though Ranger training except on the rifle range, but he was one-hell-of a combat soldier.





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Everyone keeps saying god help us when they allow women in combat arms units. Hell their been 31B females for yrs and I seen them in Afghanistan on patrols. Back in 09 one the Troops was coming from Deysie to Gardez they got caught up in a TIC they had a Female troop with them she got out of the truck and was laying down fire with the boys. ol 1Sg was telling her shoot over their shoot there she was rocking and rolling. Hell she got more trigger time than half the U.S Army does right now, in that incident one guy lost his leg and another lost his arm. I tell you those Cav boys were pretty damn proud of her... Now rewind to Iraq 2007 that same unit had a medic (male) freeze on them they hit an IED then a TIC Soldier's were down guys yelling for doc and this medic sat in the truck like a little bitch telling people he wasn't going to get out he wasn't going to die. They left him the truck but once they got back to the COP he was relegated to clinic duty.


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
Wouldn't it work just fine if they had an all-female unit of Rangers to fight together?



Rangers on PMS would be a terrible thing to face.


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