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Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10321830 08/21/15
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,264 Maryville TN K kevinJ Campfire Regular
kevinJ Campfire Regular K Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,264 Maryville TN	Seen quite a few copperhead and rattle snake bites in my line of work (ER). Copperheads and water moccasins are generally not life threatening to humans. Not saying it can't cause horrible pain and life long injury to limb. And most dogs will do just fine, even some smaller ones. I have only seen 1 person come close to dying and it was due to anaphylactic shock. If your allergic to one, your allergic to all of the pit vipers in the usa. Rattlers are truly a life threatening emergency. We see quite a few dry bites surprisingly from both. Hope your dog does well. Keep him loaded up with benadryl. Not sure why they give antibiotics? Not warranted in humans, so not sure why they do it in dogs. Makes me glad that where I live in TN we don't have many of them

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10321834 08/21/15
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,735 North Carolina C colodog Campfire Tracker
colodog Campfire Tracker C Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,735 North Carolina	Handled the only way it could be. Go find the carcass, your pup needs a snakeskin collar! "Camping places fix themselves in your mind as if you had spent long periods of your life in them. You will remember a curve of your wagon track in the grass of the plain like the features of a friend." Isak Dinesen

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10321842 08/21/15
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1 S Steelhead OP Campfire Oracle
OP Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1	We have lots of them in this part of TN. "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10321866 08/21/15
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 28,222 Likes: 1 Central CA Barkoff Campfire Ranger
Barkoff Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 28,222 Likes: 1 Central CA	http://www.redrockbiologics.com/rattlesnake_vaccine_faq.php

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10321868 08/21/15
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 44,492 Likes: 10 south of south local_dirt Campfire 'Bwana
local_dirt Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 44,492 Likes: 10 south of south	Originally Posted by Steelhead To be fair, the snake was only 3-4' away. Steelie, fugk him and put it right up in his ear. Glad your pooch is doing OK. Good looking dawg. Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH

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Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10321876 08/21/15
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,264 Maryville TN K kevinJ Campfire Regular
kevinJ Campfire Regular K Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,264 Maryville TN	I have seen quite a few timber rattlers in the park and on the plateau. Fortunately here in the valley they are few and far between. I'm just glad all we have here is copperheads and timbers. No eastern DB or cottonmouth. Hell, I rarely ever see any snakes around even though I am outside a lot. What part of TN you in?

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10322132 08/21/15
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,919 B Bearcat74 Campfire Tracker
Bearcat74 Campfire Tracker B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,919	It's been amazing how many snakes, especially rattlesnakes have been seen this year around here. When I die I hope I don't start voting democrat.

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10322422 08/21/15
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 33,750 Likes: 6 Either Texas or Idaho E EdM Campfire 'Bwana
EdM Campfire 'Bwana E Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 33,750 Likes: 6 Either Texas or Idaho	I continue to be surprised to even see a snake at all at our place in the Hill Country. I have seen more snakes in north Idaho than at my place in Texas. I leave 'em alone and worry about dumbazz cow moose. Bears fall well behind. Conduct is the best proof of character.

Re: Mother^%))! EdM #10322442 08/21/15
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,326 Likes: 9 Oregon Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna
Fireball2 Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2011 Posts: 56,326 Likes: 9 Oregon	Glad all is well, feel bad for the pup. I'm sure we can both agree that we're glad I don't live in TN! _______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack LOL

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10322460 08/21/15
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,854 The LBK......TX 2 257heaven Campfire Ranger
257heaven Campfire Ranger 2 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,854 The LBK......TX	Sure hate to see that schitt happen. And they do blend in. We had 3 dogs quail hunting one time and had a rattlesnake start rattling. We got the dogs back and we were all trying to see the snake....still rattling. One of the guys saw it and shot it. I saw where the shot hit and I was looking right at it before the shot and didn't see the damn snake. At least he made noise so we could get the dogs away from it. My dad.....on the other hand.....could not hear a rattlesnake. We unfortunately verified this several times while hunting. Can laugh now but wasn't too funny then. Sent from my Dingleberry Handheld Wireless

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Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10322482 08/21/15
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger
tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good!	Hope the dog heals up okay, and glad you missed getting bit! "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10322776 08/21/15
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1 S Steelhead OP Campfire Oracle
OP Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1	Still swollen this AM of course, but he's getting around a little better on it. Other than the swelling, he seems in good spirits. "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10322876 08/21/15
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 6,314 Western Kentucky S shortactionsmoker Campfire Tracker
shortactionsmoker Campfire Tracker S Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 6,314 Western Kentucky	Just saw this. Glad the dog is making progress. I hate those snakes. We don't see a ton here, but they usually pop up this time of year for some reason. My last encounter was in the driveway and all I had was a shovel. I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!

Re: Mother^%))! shortactionsmoker #10322922 08/21/15
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,315 Likes: 2 Wyoming F frogman43 Campfire Outfitter
frogman43 Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,315 Likes: 2 Wyoming	It looks like the shovel was effective! Glad to hear that Roux is still doing okay, Scott. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10322996 08/21/15
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 10,653 Badger State roundoak Campfire Outfitter
roundoak Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 10,653 Badger State	Good story line in a movie...dog steps in front of master and takes a snake bite. Hope the dog continues to mend. Wayne You're Welcome At My Fire Anytime

Re: Mother^%))! Huntingnut #10323148 08/21/15
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,278 Sandia Mountains, NM Anjin Campfire Regular
Anjin Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,278 Sandia Mountains, NM	Originally Posted by Huntingnut Your pup should be fine, but if your like me they're almost like your kids, can't help feeling bad for 'em. Hate snakes! One thing great about the 'Fire, we do love our dogs. Good to hear that yours is getting better. I do not hate snakes, having grown up the son of a zoology professor and around all kinds of animals. etc. I would not keep one for a pet, but they do have their place. Here in the mountains, we do have rattlers and they keep down the mice and packrats that are showing up in droves this year. Neighbors have told me to get anti-venom shots for my Jack Russells but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Maybe I should, as I have seen two rattlers already since I moved here in May. Norman Solberg International lawyer, lately for 25 years in Japan, now working on trusts in the US, the 3rd greatest tax haven. NRA Life Member for over 50 years, NRA Endowment (2014), Patron (2016).

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10328946 08/23/15
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1 S Steelhead OP Campfire Oracle
OP Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1	The swelling is almost gone. He still favors the 'wound' on his toe where the snake bit him, but he's doing well. He's skittish as all hell outside. I twig brushed up against his leg and he leaped 2' in the air. Can't say as I blame him. "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10328956 08/23/15
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,923 Kansas/Colorado U USMC2602 Campfire Regular
USMC2602 Campfire Regular U Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,923 Kansas/Colorado	Glad Roux is doing better.....we'd all be skittish too if we'd just had his experience.

Re: Mother^%))! Steelhead #10329034 08/23/15
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,379 Midwest acooper1983 Campfire Tracker
acooper1983 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,379 Midwest	Originally Posted by Steelhead I had literally stopped to take a piss. My dog came right along side of me and then BOOM, he leaped and ran off. I first thought he had been stung by a bee. I looked down and there in the leaves, not 2 feet from my foot was a copperhead. I took off his head with a 38, shoved a Benadryl down Roux's throat and took him to the vet. The gave him a big injection of antibiotic and steroid. Along with a week's worth of antibiotics to give Roux. Snake got him right in the tip of his left front foot. It's doubled in size, but the swelling hasn't moved past his knee. Damn if those frigging snakes don't blend. Power company was removing some trees along the right of way, very near where this happened. I'm guessing that helped push him out. you might not be an [bleep] after all, nice lookin pit, looks built like my male just different colored, hope he's feeling better soon they're tough animals I kill chit. "The Heathens nest"

Re: Mother^%))! acooper1983 #10329146 08/23/15
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 18,667 Likes: 1 S sse Campfire Ranger
sse Campfire Ranger S Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 18,667 Likes: 1	i hate snakes nor do i think they're pretty

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