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Who...? ME!
I wouldn't do that. <G>
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Or Maybe like this ! ![[Linked Image]](http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l591/kleingunther/Elk%20%20%20HUNTING/Favorite%20Guns/photo_zpsa49f1cb0.jpg) Well, maybe I would. <G>
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M D -
Your statement about things that make 1 rifle more desirable than another is spot on.
There is "something" about my 70 - 300 WM that I can't put my finger on BUT that rifle and I are 'matched' somehow ? No matter how I could describe it, IT just does something naturally that other rifles I have, do not and have not.
OTOH I don't have a single rifle I don't like. They are GONE.
I know I don't NEED a 300 for WT hunting but I like hunting that rifle, ??
There are several things I could say and describe about THAT rifle and yet not adequately answer what that 'something' is. ? ? ?
Do yourself a favour and get one of the M70 Featherweights in .280 , it will complement your .300  http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/itemdetail.asp?id=535200227&mid=535200
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"get one of the M70 Featherweights in .280"
Good luck with that. I ordered one last spring. Was promised August delivery. Now they are saying January.
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Didn't know that.
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I was once told by a very sage and savvy rifle guy that the .280 Remington/7mm Express was as close to the perfect CF rifle round as a mere mortal could get. The only possible improvement to be made was to neck it up to 30 caliber...
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I was once told by a very sage and savvy rifle guy that the .280 Remington/7mm Express was as close to the perfect CF rifle round as a mere mortal could get. ... True Enough ...The only possible improvement to be made was to neck it up to 33 caliber... Fixed that for y'all 
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Do yourself a favour and get one of the M70 Featherweights in .280 , it will complement your .300 338 - Sorry, I was not ignoring you. When I read this I MIS read and did not realize your were talking to me. I'm SURE I'd like that 70 FTWT in 280,..... the problem is I'd like tooooo many different rifles, etc. I'm already to the point I can't hunt all my rifles each deer season which is relatively long. Since I already have 'light' weight rifles I can't justify adding another. Thanks Anyway Jerry
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Despite my earlier comments, I don't dislike the .280, and in fact just purchased a stainless Douglas barrel already threaded for a 700 action and chambered for the .280 AI by my old friend, the late Mickey Coleman.
Had always meant to order a rifle from Mickey but never could quite decide on what, and then of course it was too late. But "Ebby" had this barrel and a long Remington 700 action for sale on the Classifieds at such a great piece I couldn't resist, and he shipped it quickly and well-protected.
Will probably make it a little spiffier than some of my homemade custom rifles by using a PT&G bolt, but haven't decided on a stock yet.
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I did...and if Winchester would ever ship the GD thing, I'd give a report on it.
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I was once told by a very sage and savvy rifle guy that the .280 Remington/7mm Express was as close to the perfect CF rifle round as a mere mortal could get. The only possible improvement to be made was to neck it up to 30 caliber... As Larry the Great always said.... you have to neck down the .30-06 to get the "suck" out of it.
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Do yourself a favour and get one of the M70 Featherweights in .280 , it will complement your .300 338 - Sorry, I was not ignoring you. When I read this I MIS read and did not realize your were talking to me. I'm SURE I'd like that 70 FTWT in 280,..... the problem is I'd like tooooo many different rifles, etc. I'm already to the point I can't hunt all my rifles each deer season which is relatively long. Since I already have 'light' weight rifles I can't justify adding another. Thanks Anyway Jerry Jerry : Sell something ! Order 2 and generate some demand ! They seem to be sluggish on the delivery of a SHOT Show special. Seriously though, you raved about your M70 300 on a .280 thread, so I thought it was an appropriate suggestion. I wish Win chambered the Sporter or the SuperGrade in .280 to match my .338s ergos. My '92 Fwt Classic in .280 is a great shooter! Trigger was tuned by a friend, and some initial reluctance to feed smoothly was "adjusted"
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Despite my earlier comments, I don't dislike the .280, and in fact just purchased a stainless Douglas barrel already threaded for a 700 action and chambered for the .280 AI by my old friend, the late Mickey Coleman.
Had always meant to order a rifle from Mickey but never could quite decide on what, and then of course it was too late. But "Ebby" had this barrel and a long Remington 700 action for sale on the Classifieds at such a great piece I couldn't resist, and he shipped it quickly and well-protected.
Will probably make it a little spiffier than some of my homemade custom rifles by using a PT&G bolt, but haven't decided on a stock yet.
MD - Bravo! Please keep us advised Articles on your Gentry custom were decisively inspirational for me. I think that the .280 AI is the new .270 Cheers
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The 280 remington never caught on. The case is not the same headspace as the 270 or 30-06 so that it can't be chambered in a 270 or made from them either.
You won't find ammo around.
It's lower pressure so it will work in the rem. auto.
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The case is not the same headspace as the 270 or 30-06 so that it can't be chambered in a 270 or made from them either.
What?? A .280 Rem. can't be chambered in a .270 Win.? You learn something new every day. Thanks!!
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Yep, he's always full of insider insights.
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Maybe it's been said here already but a 280 is to a 7-08 what a 30-06 is to a 308
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ldholton,
Dunno if it has been said on this thread or not, but it always bears repeating.
By the time .280 bullets get 50-75 yards downrange, their velocity is about like a 7-08's at the muzzle.
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Yep, he's always full of insider insights. WOW ! M D - thnx so much, didn't know that.  > 
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ldholton,
Dunno if it has been said on this thread or not, but it always bears repeating.
By the time .280 bullets get 50-75 yards downrange, their velocity is about like a 7-08's at the muzzle. Imtoo lazy to do the math but the 06 308 thing ain't much different ? Personaly I'll thake the short action unless I NEED a lot more ummf than it will be a long fat case.
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