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No question which side I'd support if this was proposed...
Kudos to conservatives in Ireland, Norway and Australia...
Farrakhan needs to shut up in this country....calling for the death and killings of 10,000 Whites...he's a Muslim..
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Plainly our founding fathers could not have meant to embrace every cult and movement in their view of religious freedom. Had you specifically named devil worship, for instance, I doubt it would have fallen within their idea of religion.
Plainly their minds were focused on the internecine warfare between Protestants and Catholics in their recent English history and didn't want government to endorse or favor any particular denomination.
Plainly they did not address this adequately in the Constitution.
Plainly their view of government, justice, law, and social order was a Judaeo-Christian one. It could not embrace communism or the deviltry of islam, but they did not address those limits because the threat was so non-existent or remote.
Given the events of our times, I believe the majority of our founding fathers would have renounced islam and not drawn the protective mantle religious freedom over it.
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Plainly our founding fathers could not have meant to embrace every cult and movement in their view of religious freedom. Had you specifically named devil worship, for instance, I doubt it would have fallen within their idea of religion.
Plainly their minds were focused on the internecine warfare between Protestants and Catholics in their recent English history and didn't want government to endorse or favor any particular denomination.
Plainly they did not address this adequately in the Constitution.
Plainly their view of government, justice, law, and social order was a Judaeo-Christian one. It could not embrace communism or the deviltry of islam, but they did not address those limits because the threat was so non-existent or remote.
Given the events of our times, I believe the majority of our founding fathers would have renounced islam and not drawn the protective mantle religious freedom over it.
Very slippery slope to stand on there..
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Plainly our founding fathers could not have meant to embrace every cult and movement in their view of religious freedom. Had you specifically named devil worship, for instance, I doubt it would have fallen within their idea of religion.
Plainly their minds were focused on the internecine warfare between Protestants and Catholics in their recent English history and didn't want government to endorse or favor any particular denomination.
Plainly they did not address this adequately in the Constitution.
Plainly their view of government, justice, law, and social order was a Judaeo-Christian one. It could not embrace communism or the deviltry of islam, but they did not address those limits because the threat was so non-existent or remote.
Given the events of our times, I believe the majority of our founding fathers would have renounced islam and not drawn the protective mantle religious freedom over it.
Exactly.
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I'm all for starting another Crusade! "God wills it"! My favorite movie of all time................. Watch the directors cut much better............
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Plainly their minds were focused on the internecine warfare between Protestants and Catholics in their recent English history and didn't want government to endorse or favor any particular denomination. It was more than that. In the colonies, there was an open season on Quakers. Roger Williams, the founder of the Baptist movement, was driven out of MA and eventually founded Rhode Island. It got bloody between groups of Protestants. The Protestant/Catholic fight was just part of it. They were trying to promote tolerance for others and it worked until just recently.
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It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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Plainly our founding fathers could not have meant to embrace every cult and movement in their view of religious freedom. Had you specifically named devil worship, for instance, I doubt it would have fallen within their idea of religion.
Plainly their minds were focused on the internecine warfare between Protestants and Catholics in their recent English history and didn't want government to endorse or favor any particular denomination.
Plainly they did not address this adequately in the Constitution.
Plainly their view of government, justice, law, and social order was a Judaeo-Christian one. It could not embrace communism or the deviltry of islam, but they did not address those limits because the threat was so non-existent or remote.
Given the events of our times, I believe the majority of our founding fathers would have renounced islam and not drawn the protective mantle religious freedom over it.
Very slippery slope to stand on there.. Yes, it is. But it is also a slippery slope - and a much graver immediate threat - to continue to protect murder, insurrection, rape, and criminal conspiracy under the mantra of 'religious' freedom.
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Religious freedom isn't what we need as a country. What we need is one rule, under God.
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Religious freedom isn't what we need as a country. What we need is one rule, under God.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Religious freedom isn't what we need as a country. What we need is one rule, under God. Great idea. So, let's have everyone convert to Jehovah's Witnesses and ban all other religions or denominations. Sound good? No? How about to Mormonism, then? Everyone convert and we outlaw all other religions and denominations. Still no? Hmmm... Then, let's go back to the basics and have everyone become Jewish. Then, we can ban all the rest. That should work, right? ..... Get the point yet? (For many, probably not.) Be careful what you wish for, because you might just get it, and it might be your ox that's gored next.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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You're being disingenuous for the crowd. You're smart enough I don't need to explain it.
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You're being disengenuous for the crowd. You're smart enough I don't need to explain it. Oh, I'm being quite genuine. One rule, under God - fine, who gets to define who/what God is and the rules that do and don't apply? You get one, and everyone must comply. That's what you stated you wanted, and if you're not careful you may just get it.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Run the country as founded and intended.
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Islam is a terrorist organization.
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How about you do not have to become muslim or die? Religion of peace BS.
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It won't be PC when they get a stranglehold around our necks and march us off to the fema death camps... We're only dreaming of utopia if we think they have any love or tolerance of us or our way of life... See you on the front lines, kicking and screaming! While they're rounding up all the PC bastids and packing 'em onto boxcars
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