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Originally Posted by DINK
Actually the most narcissistic people are drunks.

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Drunks?

I figured you would say drug addicts.


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Lots, if not most, of those "self centered" people are narcissists. They just don't normally control enough of your, or anybody else's, lives to be relevant.
When they do, it becomes obvious to those familiar with the disorder. The worst thing about them is that they will never accept what they are.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by DINK
Actually the most narcissistic people are drunks.

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Drunks?

I figured you would say drug addicts.


Narcissists are very susceptible to addiction, for many reasons. One is that they have a really hard time dealing with "injury" to their ego, another is that they tend to think that are not weak like everybody else.


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I disagree.Not with the post directly above..your previous one.

Self centeredness can be overcome..... check out the Dale Carnigie program for one, and A.A. for another..... if there is sufficient motivation. If your boss is gonna fire you because you can't get along with people, or, you are gonna die drunk, that's the type motivation required.

Narcissistic people, like OBAMA for instance can never change.

Prison might work.grin

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The selfishness involved in addiction has nothing to do with narcissism. The "need" for whatever one is addicted to overwhelms everything else. Most narcissists are very intelligent, and like a sociopath, are masters in the art of manipulation. As employees, they are not typically the one's that can't get along with others. They are the "suck ups" that will do anything for attention or an "attaboy" and will do, or say anything to avoid criticism. Boss's tend to love them. It's when they become the "boss" that they become a problem.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
The selfishness involved in addiction has nothing to do with narcissism. The "need" for whatever one is addicted to overwhelms everything else. Most narcissists are very intelligent, and like a sociopath, are masters in the art of manipulation. As employees, they are not typically the one's that can't get along with others. They are the "suck ups" that will do anything for attention or an "attaboy" and will do, or say anything to avoid criticism. Boss's tend to love them. It's when they become the "boss" that they become a problem.


I've been the boss of many a Narcissist. If you have any kind of an consistent, active feed back system, I've found most narcissists even well meaning feedback that is designed to improve their performance. The thin skin and blaming show up very early, at which time you get rid of them at the first opportunity.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
The selfishness involved in addiction has nothing to do with narcissism. The "need" for whatever one is addicted to overwhelms everything else. Most narcissists are very intelligent, and like a sociopath, are masters in the art of manipulation. As employees, they are not typically the one's that can't get along with others. They are the "suck ups" that will do anything for attention or an "attaboy" and will do, or say anything to avoid criticism. Boss's tend to love them. It's when they become the "boss" that they become a problem.


You sure know your narcissists don't Ya..........

The big boss at work is a narcissist and at the present time is in the destroying self mode, several people have been calling him on his lies and he is doubling down, weather he'll complete the destruction mode is yet to be seen.

One time he tells me that one of an employee's duties is to take the heat for the boss's mistakes as the boss should never be wrong, then he says that's why I like being the boss, I'm never wrong. I walk away laughing and shaking my head I also know he thinks I agreed with him because I didn't argue about it.........

Fu cker is a pain in the ass to deal with.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The selfishness involved in addiction has nothing to do with narcissism. The "need" for whatever one is addicted to overwhelms everything else. Most narcissists are very intelligent, and like a sociopath, are masters in the art of manipulation. As employees, they are not typically the one's that can't get along with others. They are the "suck ups" that will do anything for attention or an "attaboy" and will do, or say anything to avoid criticism. Boss's tend to love them. It's when they become the "boss" that they become a problem.


You sure know your narcissists don't Ya..........

The big boss at work is a narcissist and at the present time is in the destroying self mode, several people have been calling him on his lies and he is doubling down, weather he'll complete the destruction mode is yet to be seen.

One time he tells me that one of an employee's duties is to take the heat for the boss's mistakes as the boss should never be wrong, then he says that's why I like being the boss, I'm never wrong. I walk away laughing and shaking my head I also know he thinks I agreed with him because I didn't argue about it.........

Fu cker is a pain in the ass to deal with.


If would be HR gold if you had caught that on tape.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag

You sure know your narcissists don't Ya..........



Unfortunately, learning as much as I could about narcissism was a matter of self preservation. Everybody would be better off if they studied it more.


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