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...at least I aimed...just led too far.
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Are you saying the cops didn't aim?
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...I will guaranty it... Go watch the LE shootings on YouTube and LiveLeak..and it isn't only LEOs... Point gun, jerk trigger...
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Are you saying the cops didn't aim?
Travis 4 cops shot 84 rounds and one round clipped the guy's calf...do you really think there was any sort of basic marksmaship whatsoever going on there? I could hit a guy at 400 yards with a handgun in less than 84 rounds.
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Are you saying the cops didn't aim?
Travis 4 cops shot 84 rounds and one round clipped the guy's calf...do you really think there was any sort of basic marksmaship whatsoever going on there? I could hit a guy at 400 yards with a handgun in less than 84 rounds. No you couldn't.
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I'm sure that the guy and cops were standing perfectly still, like Kevin's imaginary 400 yard shots.
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...I will guaranty it... Go watch the LE shootings on YouTube and LiveLeak..and it isn't only LEOs... Point gun, jerk trigger...
Bob That's a pretty bold guarantee. Most people have a hard time hitting a moving target even while using support, a rifle, and having full knowledge that the target will not only be incoming, but harmless as well. Travis
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4 cops shot 84 rounds and one round clipped the guy's calf...do you really think there was any sort of basic marksmaship whatsoever going on there?
I could hit a guy at 400 yards with a handgun in less than 84 rounds. I don't know that there was, and I don't know that there wasn't. How many fleeing negroes have you shot at after taking fire? And what was your hit percentage? Travis
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not really on the thread topic here, but in some of the incidents i'm aware of--and the few videos i've seen--the LE officers do a great job. about 5 weeks ago, my brother who recently retired from LE, sent me this video to watch. from what i could tell by viewing the video, the male officer did a good job. the gal got somewhat "squeally" at the moment of truth, but just about the time the gent was neutralized, she managed a few rounds... https://www.full30.com/video/dc1c563aa6b106f252dfe6a9d91ffd94?ref=F530fbbtw, can someone explain how these videos can be inserted into a post, where they appear as a viewing screen, rather than just a link--what is the procedure?
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I have not the first idea what I am supposed to ascertain from any of those videos. Travis
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I have not the first idea what I am supposed to ascertain from any of those videos. Travis Watch the shooters, the gun and the line of sight...all of them are point shooting. One of the only ones who uses his sights is the gunfight in the driveway where the guy is using the tree for cover. The officer at the end of the driveway behind the pickup makes a nice aimed headshot... Bob
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not really on the thread topic here, but in some of the incidents i'm aware of--and the few videos i've seen--the LE officers do a great job. about 5 weeks ago, my brother who recently retired from LE, sent me this video to watch. from what i could tell by viewing the video, the male officer did a good job. the gal got somewhat "squeally" at the moment of truth, but just about the time the gent was neutralized, she managed a few rounds... https://www.full30.com/video/dc1c563aa6b106f252dfe6a9d91ffd94?ref=F530fbbtw, can someone explain how these videos can be inserted into a post, where they appear as a viewing screen, rather than just a link--what is the procedure? There is second video out there of the female officer shooting...she does a good job... If you look, when the BG pulled the gun she went for it but the male officer grabbed the guys shoulder and spun him around so he could not point the gun at the female officer and the momentum spun him long enough for both the officers to draw... First time I have seen a laser in use...and again...no sights and I'll bet as fast as he was firing he never saw the dot either...shoot till they go down.. Bob
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When viewing a grainy surveillance video or a shaky cell phone video from across the street, exactly how do I tell if the cops are looking at their sights or not?
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I'll bet as fast as he was firing he never saw the dot either...shoot till they go down..
Bob And since the cop hit what he was aiming at really fast, your expert conclusion is that he didn't use his sights? Gimme a break.
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The first one is about as clear as it gets... Better yet do what I have done...talk to bunch of officers who have been in gun fights...the ones within 10 yards have just about all told me they never saw their sights.
When it is up-close and personal you are so focused on the BG and his weapon you never see your gun. That is why proper handgun fit is so important and learn and practice point shooting. Dallas PD started teaching point shooting about 1980 and we had the highest hit percentage in the nation. In 1983 we had about 80 officer involved shooting, something like 65 hits with 34 dead. Most gun fights didn't last 3 rounds.
And the officers I talked to, most were not hunters or even shooters, but they all had the attitude that was instilled in them by two DPD Sergeants, Fouche and Patterson who put on an officer survival course that most departments would never have the stomach to put on... And the last thing you wanted to be when you walked out of their class was their next Star up on the silver screen....
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That didn't answer the question.
I want to know How can you tell from a grainy surveillance video or a shaky cell phone video from across the street that the cop wasn't looking at his sights?
The first video isn't obvious. You have no idea if he was looking at his sights or not. You're guessing.
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not really on the thread topic here, but in some of the incidents i'm aware of--and the few videos i've seen--the LE officers do a great job. about 5 weeks ago, my brother who recently retired from LE, sent me this video to watch. from what i could tell by viewing the video, the male officer did a good job. the gal got somewhat "squeally" at the moment of truth, but just about the time the gent was neutralized, she managed a few rounds... https://www.full30.com/video/dc1c563aa6b106f252dfe6a9d91ffd94?ref=F530fbbtw, can someone explain how these videos can be inserted into a post, where they appear as a viewing screen, rather than just a link--what is the procedure? I guess that guy didn't want to go to jail. Good work by the officers.
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...I'll make it clear then..."NO". Go over YouTube and LiveLeak and look at a bunch of the gunfight videos...you think they are aiming with their sights...ok...
All I can tell you is go talk to the people who been there and done that...I have...about 50 of them...and that is what they told me..
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I'm not sure how the officers are trained in Poland or Germany?
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