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One video is of a couple pollocks, the other is of a couple krauts, and the last is... I don't know WTF it is.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I'm not sure how the officers are trained in Poland or Germany? Whatever it is, it's totally relevant. And you can definitely from the video if the officer's eyeballs are looking at or over the sights.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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So, my 9mm won't kill anything AND I may as well file off the sights.
I love this place.
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Don't file off your sights yet. I can't tell if point shooting is good or bad. I think it depends on if you're a Texan or a Frenchie.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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So, my 9mm won't kill anything AND I may as well file off the sights.
I love this place. According to some here, yes. Bob
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...I'll make it clear then..."NO". Go over YouTube and LiveLeak and look at a bunch of the gunfight videos...you think they are aiming with their sights...ok...
All I can tell you is go talk to the people who been there and done that...I have...about 50 of them...and that is what they told me..
Bob Not remembering seeing the front sight and actually not seeing the front sight may not be the same thing. I suspect the eyes were focused on the threat and the front sight was in their peripheral vision.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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So, my 9mm won't kill anything AND I may as well file off the sights.
I love this place. According to some here, yes. Bob Just to be clear, I never said anyone should file off their front sights. I train with my front sight being my focus point. Always have. I was commenting on what I had read about Bill Hickok. Might be false, but true or not, I don't advocate it.
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Just to be clear, I wasn't referring to your post(s), moreover the apparent generalization that actually aiming isn't happening, so why bother having sights.
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Are you saying the cops didn't aim?
Travis 4 cops shot 84 rounds and one round clipped the guy's calf...do you really think there was any sort of basic marksmaship whatsoever going on there? I could hit a guy at 400 yards with a handgun in less than 84 rounds. No you couldn't. If you want to make the trip, I'll use my Colt's .38 Super to hit an IPSC target at 400 yards off hand inside of 84 rounds. If I win, you give me $1,000.00. If I lose, you leave with my .38 Super (which is about $1,400.00). Make the trip, you can stay at my house for the weekend. I'll feed you right and proper with biscuits and gravy for breakfast, and I'll even put a brisket and some baby backs on the smoker and give you a right proper meal and your favorite beer on ice to wash it down with. To be honest, I've never tried it at 400 yards before; so this would be "fair chase". I've done it at 250, but that's as far as I've shot my Super. So how confident are you of your calling me out on that one? My Super has some custom touches, but accuracy wise, it's the factory barrel with the factory bushing and link. Think of it...you HATE MY GUTS...You could have my personal pistol, and you could post pictures of it daily on the Campfire and call me a braggart who couldn't hold up his end. If you lose, I'll pocket the grand and I won't even mention it on the Campfire; it will just be between you and I.
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4 cops shot 84 rounds and one round clipped the guy's calf...do you really think there was any sort of basic marksmaship whatsoever going on there?
I could hit a guy at 400 yards with a handgun in less than 84 rounds. I don't know that there was, and I don't know that there wasn't. How many fleeing negroes have you shot at after taking fire? And what was your hit percentage? Travis Zero...It's less about me and more about making a point. If you have time to squeeze off 84 rounds, you have time to at least make an effort to connect on a half dozen or so shots.
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Did the 4 cops shoot 84 rounds each, or is it that 84 sounds better than 21 +/-?
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Zero...It's less about me and more about making a point. If you have time to squeeze off 84 rounds, you have time to at least make an effort to connect on a half dozen or so shots.
Ok Kevin. How many shots should the officers have fired? Travis
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Did the 4 cops shoot 84 rounds each, or is it that 84 sounds better than 21 +/-? It's a total round count. I believe there were six officers firing. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Make the trip, you can stay at my house for the weekend. Even if he wins, he loses. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Did the 4 cops shoot 84 rounds each, or is it that 84 sounds better than 21 +/-? It's a total round count. I believe there were six officers firing. Travis So 6 guys dump their magazines?
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Two of them were bleeders.
I believe they accounted for 36 of the rounds if I am remembering correctly.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Zero...It's less about me and more about making a point. If you have time to squeeze off 84 rounds, you have time to at least make an effort to connect on a half dozen or so shots.
Ok Kevin. How many shots should the officers have fired? Travis I don't know. But if you can safely expose yourself long enough to empty a magazine, then you ought to have enough time to make one or two count. Like the saying goes, you can never miss fast enough to catch up!!
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Two of them were bleeders.
I believe they accounted for 36 of the rounds if I am remembering correctly.
Travis Keeps getting better
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Make the trip, you can stay at my house for the weekend. Even if he wins, he loses. Travis And how's that? He gets to run me down all he wants with solid proof to back it up. And there's more than enough people on the Campfire who hate me to crowd source the plane tickets. Seems like he wins either way, and I'm the one that's gambling. Hell, you guys could run me outta here. I'm betting you've already sent him a PM with an offer to help out.
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And how's that? He gets to run me down all he wants with solid proof to back it up. And there's more than enough people on the Campfire who hate me to crowd source the plane tickets. Seems like he wins either way, and I'm the one that's gambling. Hell, you guys could run me outta here. I'm betting you've already sent him a PM with an offer to help out. Should we start a pity/victim/conspiring-against-me forum? Travis
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