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Originally Posted by djs
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So, JMR, what law allows her to issue licenses to queers?


Perhaps God's law; he made them that way. Homosexuality is not a choice, it's a condition that's formed at birth.


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This pic was posted quite often on another site years ago..

these are two twin brothers from Michigan actually... The U.P. IRRC....

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BOY ARE YOU OUT TO FFCKING LUNCH .. LIKE HEII HE MADE THEM THAT WAY , THE BIBLE PROHIBITS HOMOSEXUALITY..

It prohibits judging others, and using profanity too, but the pretend christians here like to ignore all that.

Doesn't the bible say God made everything?




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Is she conflicted when two gay men come to her for a marriage license but they are cousins?

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Originally Posted by Snyper
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BOY ARE YOU OUT TO FFCKING LUNCH .. LIKE HEII HE MADE THEM THAT WAY , THE BIBLE PROHIBITS HOMOSEXUALITY..

It prohibits judging others, and using profanity too, but the pretend christians here like to ignore all that.

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Originally Posted by Snyper
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Doesn't the bible say God made everything?




That's weak. More like seventh grade logic, don't you think?

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Originally Posted by CCCC
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So, JMR, what law allows her to issue licenses to queers?
Perhaps God's law; he made them that way. Homosexuality is not a choice, it's a condition that's formed at birth.

Here, here - that's an interesting view. Would you care to provide some clear substantiation of your comments

djs -- some substantiation ???


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Originally Posted by Fubarski
And your stupidity is beginning to annoy the entire forum.

Kentucky law does not allow the issuance of marriage licenses to queers:

402.020 Other prohibited marriages.
(1) Marriage is prohibited and void:
(a) With a person who has been adjudged mentally disabled by a court of competent jurisdiction;
(b) Where there is a husband or wife living, from whom the person marrying has not been divorced;
(c) When not solemnized or contracted in the presence of an authorized person or society;
(d) Between members of the same sex;

So, following the law, she has no legal authority to issue a license to the militant queer a$$holes who are demanding one.


I don't know what these tards who are demanding she "do her job" don't get about this issue. What you wrote is pretty clear.

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Originally Posted by djs
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So, JMR, what law allows her to issue licenses to queers?


Perhaps God's law; he made them that way. Homosexuality is not a choice, it's a condition that's formed at birth.


That is totally ignorant. Even homosexual professors who study homosexuality don't believe that. Like this lesbian professor -
https://medium.com/matter/we-ve-got-gender-all-wrong-dc7a7a6a2809


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Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
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Doesn't the bible say God made everything?


That's weak. More like seventh grade logic, don't you think?

I'm trying to keep things on a level they can understand, but the statement is factual at all levels.




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Originally Posted by Snyper
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Doesn't the bible say God made everything?


That's weak. More like seventh grade logic, don't you think?

I'm trying to keep things on a level they can understand, but the statement is factual at all levels.




Not so.

Homosexual activity is not a thing.

Homosexual activity begins as a thought, which becomes a desire, which becomes an intent, which becomes an action...which becomes a thought...

God made all things...homosexual behavior is not a thing.

And for the record...while we are being factual...at all levels:

God did not make airplanes
God did not make the atomic bomb
God did not make the bicycle

I could go on, but perhaps you get the idea.

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GAB, I think you are wasting your time. Atheists don't understand the difference between make and create much less the difference between actions and states of being.

I do appreciate your logic, however. But the people saying God created homosexuals conveniently leave out that God created Ebola and Typhoid as well as Hitler and those "nafty homophobes".


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Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
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Doesn't the bible say God made everything?


That's weak. More like seventh grade logic, don't you think?

I'm trying to keep things on a level they can understand, but the statement is factual at all levels.




Not so.

Homosexual activity is not a thing.

Homosexual activity begins as a thought, which becomes a desire, which becomes an intent, which becomes an action...which becomes a thought...

God made all things...homosexual behavior is not a thing.

And for the record...while we are being factual...at all levels:

God did not make airplanes
God did not make the atomic bomb
God did not make the bicycle

I could go on, but perhaps you get the idea.


interesting concepts

so you're saying an omnipotent God allowed airplanes, atomic bombs, the bicycle, etc.,?

as well as hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes?


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Originally Posted by KFWA
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Originally Posted by Snyper
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Doesn't the bible say God made everything?


That's weak. More like seventh grade logic, don't you think?

I'm trying to keep things on a level they can understand, but the statement is factual at all levels.




Not so.

Homosexual activity is not a thing.

Homosexual activity begins as a thought, which becomes a desire, which becomes an intent, which becomes an action...which becomes a thought...

God made all things...homosexual behavior is not a thing.

And for the record...while we are being factual...at all levels:

God did not make airplanes
God did not make the atomic bomb
God did not make the bicycle

I could go on, but perhaps you get the idea.


interesting concepts

so you're saying an omnipotent God allowed airplanes, atomic bombs, the bicycle, etc.,?

as well as hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes?


This type of response always amuses me.

An omnipotent God created the universe and all there is.

He created man with free will, and a brain with amazing capacity for thinking.

Man can choose to use that brain to do great good or great harm to himself and others.

I have a good idea of where you are going with this. So, before you get there, let me ask you a question?

If you question the omnipotence of God because he does not intervene in the things you suggest…would you also question the omnipotence of God because he does not intervene in all things evil (bad, destructive, ect.)?

In other words, God considers unbelief in him evil. Should he circumvent your free will and impose himself there? What about sexual sins? Should he circumvent your free will and impose himself there?

In the above examples, I am not equating God's prohibition with prevention. The question that would follow is, should God in his omnipotence actually remove your free will...and stop you and all mankind from committing such acts...and all other acts that He deems evil?

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so God's will takes a back seat to free will of man?

if God is capable of stopping a man from killing another man, and he doesn't not intervene, then is it not God's will that the man commit murder?

If he is omnipotent and provides free will as a gift, then he also knows what the man who commits murder choice will be. He provides the ability to choose, yet he knows the choice you will make. Quite a paradox there.

a better answer might be that God just does not give a damn.


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Originally Posted by KFWA
so God's will takes a back seat to free will of man?

if God is capable of stopping a man from killing another man, and he doesn't not intervene, then is it not God's will that the man commit murder?

If he is omnipotent and provides free will as a gift, then he also knows what the man who commits murder choice will be. He provide the ability to choose, yet he knows the choice you will make. Quite a paradox there.

a better answer might be that God just does not give a damn.



This is quite contrary to humanistic, materialistic, and atheistic thinking. Which boils do to the idea that man can be moral without any need of a God. And that man need to be responsible for his own action and not to a God.

You cannot have it both ways. Or can can you?

God does give man free will. God does expect man to be accountable for his actions. And God has set up the institution of government to hold man accountable. No paradox there.

In regard to free will. There could be neither good or bad without it.

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
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so God's will takes a back seat to free will of man?

if God is capable of stopping a man from killing another man, and he doesn't not intervene, then is it not God's will that the man commit murder?

If he is omnipotent and provides free will as a gift, then he also knows what the man who commits murder choice will be. He provide the ability to choose, yet he knows the choice you will make. Quite a paradox there.

a better answer might be that God just does not give a damn.



This is quite contrary to humanistic, materialistic, and atheistic thinking. Which boils do to the idea that man can be moral without any need of a God. And that man need to be responsible for his own action and not to a God.

You cannot have it both ways. Or can can you?

God does give man free will. God does expect man to be accountable for his actions. And God has set up the institution of government to hold man accountable. No paradox there.

The first question sinful man asked God was, "Am I my brother's keeper." Clearly, the Bible teaches that the answer is yes.


so you're saying man needs God and therefore God must exist

your response doesn't address my points.

If God is all knowing , then he knows mans choices before man makes them - and if god does or does not intervene (which clearly man believes that god does intervene in some cases) then how can free will exist?

that concept has nothing to do with man and his ability to self govern or address his own morality.

Simply said, when we pray and what we pray for doesn't happen - then its God's will. If we get what we prayed for, then its God's will.

If God's will determines what happens and doesn't happen then your choices are made for you. Free will is an illusion.





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Originally Posted by KFWA
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so God's will takes a back seat to free will of man?

if God is capable of stopping a man from killing another man, and he doesn't not intervene, then is it not God's will that the man commit murder?

If he is omnipotent and provides free will as a gift, then he also knows what the man who commits murder choice will be. He provide the ability to choose, yet he knows the choice you will make. Quite a paradox there.

a better answer might be that God just does not give a damn.



This is quite contrary to humanistic, materialistic, and atheistic thinking. Which boils do to the idea that man can be moral without any need of a God. And that man need to be responsible for his own action and not to a God.

You cannot have it both ways. Or can can you?

God does give man free will. God does expect man to be accountable for his actions. And God has set up the institution of government to hold man accountable. No paradox there.

The first question sinful man asked God was, "Am I my brother's keeper." Clearly, the Bible teaches that the answer is yes.


so you're saying man needs God and therefore God must exist

No, that is not what I am saying.

your response doesn't address my points.

If God is all knowing , then he knows mans choices before man makes them - and if god does or does not intervene (which clearly man believes that god does intervene in some cases) then how can free will exist?

You have now gone from all powerful (omnipotent) in your original reply, to omniscient (all knowing) in this reply. These are two different concepts. Just because God has fore-knowledge of the choices we make does not in any way imply the he removes our free-will to make them. An interesting take on this idea is the movie Minority Report with Tom Cruse.

that concept has nothing to do with man and his ability to self govern or address his own morality.

If man has no free will, then he would have no standard by which to self govern, and there would be no concept of morality if there is no concept of choice.

Simply said, when we pray and what we pray for doesn't happen - then its God's will. If we get what we prayed for, then its God's will.

If God's will determines what happens and doesn't happen then your choices are made for you. Free will is an illusion.

I'll address the above two statements at the same time. What you suggest is the equivalent of doing the following:

I get a gun. I get the bullets. I load the bullets. I point the gun. I pull the trigger. I pray that God's will be done.

Any thinking person realizes that this is absurd.






Please allow me to address your points within the quote. My answers will be in bold.

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Originally Posted by djs
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So, JMR, what law allows her to issue licenses to queers?


Perhaps God's law; he made them that way. Homosexuality is not a choice, it's a condition that's formed at birth.
Perhaps not.


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Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
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Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Originally Posted by KFWA
so God's will takes a back seat to free will of man?

if God is capable of stopping a man from killing another man, and he doesn't not intervene, then is it not God's will that the man commit murder?

If he is omnipotent and provides free will as a gift, then he also knows what the man who commits murder choice will be. He provide the ability to choose, yet he knows the choice you will make. Quite a paradox there.

a better answer might be that God just does not give a damn.



This is quite contrary to humanistic, materialistic, and atheistic thinking. Which boils do to the idea that man can be moral without any need of a God. And that man need to be responsible for his own action and not to a God.

You cannot have it both ways. Or can can you?

God does give man free will. God does expect man to be accountable for his actions. And God has set up the institution of government to hold man accountable. No paradox there.

The first question sinful man asked God was, "Am I my brother's keeper." Clearly, the Bible teaches that the answer is yes.


so you're saying man needs God and therefore God must exist

No, that is not what I am saying.

your response doesn't address my points.

If God is all knowing , then he knows mans choices before man makes them - and if god does or does not intervene (which clearly man believes that god does intervene in some cases) then how can free will exist?

You have now gone from all powerful (omnipotent) in your original reply, to omniscient (all knowing) in this reply. These are two different concepts. Just because God has fore-knowledge of the choices we make does not in any way imply the he removes our free-will to make them. An interesting take on this idea is the movie Minority Report with Tom Cruse.

that concept has nothing to do with man and his ability to self govern or address his own morality.

If man has no free will, then he would have no standard by which to self govern, and there would be no concept of morality if there is no concept of choice.

Simply said, when we pray and what we pray for doesn't happen - then its God's will. If we get what we prayed for, then its God's will.

If God's will determines what happens and doesn't happen then your choices are made for you. Free will is an illusion.

I'll address the above two statements at the same time. What you suggest is the equivalent of doing the following:

I get a gun. I get the bullets. I load the bullets. I point the gun. I pull the trigger. I pray that God's will be done.

Any thinking person realizes that this is absurd.






Please allow me to address your points within the quote. My answers will be in bold.


simple question...

does God intervene in our daily lives


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