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It is forty years later now. I no longer run twenty miles in a day, nor do I hike to the top of the mountain with my rifle and wait an hour or more for the guys on horses to catch up. And I certainly no longer crawl through the buck brush on my hands and knees. (like I could have gotten a shot if I had flushed a deer or elk!)

My rifle now lives in the saddle scabbard until game is spotted. So.....today I could carry the Ruger 77 or the Win 70 and never have to worry about the safety getting snagged.

But I have been there and do fully understand how it can happen.


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You carry a rifle in a saddle scabbord with a round in the chamber?

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No, absolutely not. I have never met anyone stupid enough to do that.

It has been ten years since I have had anything in the hills other than my Ruger #1. But there is a model 70 and a 77 waiting in the safe for a turn.

An interesting story in regards to this subject. On my sons first elk hunt at age twelve, he was carrying my brand new Win 70 classic in 264 slung vertically beside the saddle horn on his 4-H/cow pony. He rode the horse under a windfall sapling across the trail and got the butt stock snagged on the tree.

The stock snapped off at the tang. Somehow the safety got brushed to the off position. And when I checked especially to see, the firing pin had fallen on the empty chamber.

The silver lining is, my Son quickly understood the reasons for Dad's fanatical attention to gun handling safety.


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Whew, I was gonna say....

Guys who are [bleep] about safety are good to be around.

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I am proud to be known as that kind of as...shole!


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Originally Posted by jwall
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Wow, never came even close to that situation.

What can I say ? I've hunted thickets I had to crawl thru for a ways, wiggled and waggled thru briar thickets you could not just walk thru, stalked thru young pine plantations where you could not see nor shoot 20 yds, etc. still never had any safety pushed/pulled to off position because of brush or thickets.

ONCE I accidentally and unknowingly pushed a R 77 tang safety off by the web of my own hand, in OPEN hardwoods. That was MY fault.


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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


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Originally Posted by billiam280AI
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I feel the same way. I like the claw controlling the round into the chamber better than a push feed. However I the safety is always smoother on the push feed rifles. Kinda hard to have the best of both worlds....lol


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I feel the same way. I like the claw controlling the round into the chamber better than a push feed. However I the safety is always smoother on the push feed rifles. Kinda hard to have the best of both worlds....lol


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Wow, never came even close to that situation.

What can I say ? I've hunted thickets I had to crawl thru for a ways, wiggled and waggled thru briar thickets you could not just walk thru, stalked thru young pine plantations where you could not see nor shoot 20 yds, etc. still never had any safety pushed/pulled to off position because of brush or thickets.

ONCE I accidentally and unknowingly pushed a R 77 tang safety off by the web of my own hand, in OPEN hardwoods. That was MY fault.


Guess you can't learn everything you need to know sitting in a treestand in Awkinsaw


I dont see where he said anything about sitting in a tree stand in Awkinsaw in the above quote.


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Originally Posted by billiam280AI
However I the safety is always smoother on the push feed rifles. Kinda hard to have the best of both worlds....lol


I've had both and seen other examples and that wasn't the case.

However, let us know why you think it can be. What mechanical design would be the reason?


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I'm glad Jack O'Conner didn't like see-thru mounts and stripper clips as his fans would be cheering those too.

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Originally Posted by RDFinn
I'm glad Jack O'Conner didn't like see-thru mounts and stripper clips as his fans would be cheering those too.


That's funny. Some talk about how hardy they are but run for the house with them as soon as a cloud builds.

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Seems like many here also have problems working a pump shotgun. Requires too much manual dexterity. Wing safeties probably confuse them also.


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Originally Posted by battue
Seems like many here also have problems working a pump shotgun. Requires too much manual dexterity. Wing safeties probably confuse them also.


Well stated. I wonder if 280AI guy is as proficient with his 870 as he is with his keyboard?


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I laughed like hell after reading these quotes from Formidilosus

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A scope maintaining zero on a rifle that is coddled and caressed like a new born baby like the vast majority of people do, isn't much of a testament to the optic.


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Who cares what a scope does when the most "use" it gets is going from a padded safe, straight into a padded case, into a padded truck, laid on a padded blanket, covered up the moment it rains, god forbid it gets a scratch, and then back to the padded case, padded truck, padded safe. That ain't "use", nor close.

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I think a dedicated thumb wrestling workout may do wonders for his wing safety abilities.

We all use what we like, but gritty and loud is a stretch.

In my small part of the world it is usually push, paste, hit the trigger. I've also used it in other parts along with other safety styles. All seem to work. Then again I don't have any problems with pump shotguns.

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Originally Posted by billiam280AI
Ok, I get the controlled round feed argument. Problem is, I hate the safety on them. They are almost always loud and gritty feeling. Im sure they smooth out over time, but they sure start off gritty and noisy. Just kinda a turn off to me I guess. Anyone else like the idea of controlled round feed, but dislike the safety on them? Thanks


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I don't have much use for single shots for BG. If I'm going to carry extra bullets around they may as well be in the rifle. But let me express same and someone will jump on my ass. I know it, I know they like them and know they use them successfully, so I dont go there.


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Originally Posted by SLM
Originally Posted by billiam280AI
Ok, I get the controlled round feed argument. Problem is, I hate the safety on them. They are almost always loud and gritty feeling. Im sure they smooth out over time, but they sure start off gritty and noisy. Just kinda a turn off to me I guess. Anyone else like the idea of controlled round feed, but dislike the safety on them? Thanks


In typical 24 hour fashion. No where do I read: they won't work, they'll ruin a hunt etc. just that somebody doesn't like them.



That's how I'm reading it.

I've never let a safety keep me from using a rifle that I otherwise like.

One poster said he doesn't use them. Just go cold chamber and safeties are not an issue.

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Originally Posted by battue
And some here hunt cold and still manage to kill game consistently while having to feed a round into the chamber. Think about it.


Yup. That would be my hunting companions and me, among others. At least mostly. We will be doing it again this year on three separate hunts.

There are exceptions. If we have game spotted and are stalking it, we'll go hot chamber. Lkewise if we are in close quarters (heavy timber/brush/etc.) and think we might jump something.

Mostly though, it is cold chamber, often or even usually all day.


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