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*shrugg*,..it sounds just like a trick that the neocon crazies would cook up.

They want to bomb Iran anyway. A good opportunity would be when Russia is slinging cruise missiles into Syria.

Just pitch one into Iran and then point the finger at Russia.


put the bottle down Bristoe, you are sounding looney tunes now. laugh


Surely you're not naïve enough to believe that the governments of *all* countries don't use dirty tricks to their advantage?

The modern world isn't romper room.

In fact, if the neocon crazies *didn't* do it, it's only because they didn't think of it or couldn't get it arranged in time.

It's the perfect set up. Dump some HE on Iran, which they've been wanting to do for years, and blame it on Russia, thereby killing two birds with one stone. Blow up a piece of Iran and drive a bit of a wedge between Iran and Russia.

In the world of dirty tricks, something like that would be considered very basic.


Now think that through and tell me how that would have actually been pulled off. Someone had to give the order, and also had to know precisely when the Russians were going to launch.

And do you think for a second that such a thing wouldn't be detected by the Russians?

You're talking out your azz and it doesn't make sense.


Suppose it was noticed by the Russians.

You think you'd hear anything about it?


A US Sub in the Caspian Sea...now that's a neat trick. Those neocon's are dastardly!!!

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Perhaps the idea for the shortened rifle cartridge? 7.92x33 Kurz == 7.62x39


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Originally Posted by GunGeek

A US Sub in the Caspian Sea...now that's a neat trick. Those neocon's are dastardly!!!


Pat yourself on the back and put the idiot badge on your chest.

I've long suspected that you've earned it.

Now I know for sure.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by GunGeek

A US Sub in the Caspian Sea...now that's a neat trick. Those neocon's are dastardly!!!


Pat yourself on the back and put the idiot badge on your chest.

I've long suspected that you've earned it.

Now I know for sure.


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Lets hear you explain just exactly how this grand conspiracy was carried out?


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Just believe what you hear on FOX news.

They wouldn't lie to you.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Just believe what you hear on FOX news.

They wouldn't lie to you.



"Washington (CNN)A number of cruise missiles launched from a Russian ship and aimed at targets in Syria have crashed in Iran, two U.S. officials told CNN Thursday.

Monitoring by U.S. military and intelligence assets has concluded that at least four missiles crashed as they flew over Iran.

The U.S. believes, based on intelligence reports of damage assessments, that some buildings were damaged and civilians may have been hurt.

It's unclear where in Iran the missiles landed. The Russian ships have been positioned in the south Caspian Sea, meaning the likely flight path for missiles into Syria would cross over both Iran and Iraq.

The Russians have been firing a relatively new cruise missile called "Kaliber," using it for the first time in combat."


http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/08/politics/russian-missiles-syria-landed-iran/index.html


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Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
The Russians have been firing a relatively new cruise missile called "Kaliber," using it for the first time in combat."

So this is beta testing.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Just believe what you hear on FOX news.

They wouldn't lie to you.


We've established this is reported by multiple new agencies so that red herring is already pickled.

I see you avoided my question. Put down the bottle and explain just exactly how this grand conspiracy was carried out.


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Originally Posted by tjm10025
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The Russians have been firing a relatively new cruise missile called "Kaliber," using it for the first time in combat."

So this is beta testing.


Yes.

It would of been cheaper for them to hit these targets from the air, but they wanted to try out the new missiles and the new launch platforms as well. They probably want a "combat proven" system to assist in the international sales of the export version of this system. The ruskies knew 4 missiles crashed short, but reported all hit perhaps for this reason. Of course we were watching, and reported the shorts to embarrass them. and perhaps hinder their sales efforts.

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Just believe what you hear on FOX news.

They wouldn't lie to you.


We've established this is reported by multiple new agencies so that red herring is already pickled.

I see you avoided my question. Put down the bottle and explain just exactly how this grand conspiracy was carried out.


Just believe what the media tells you.

Never accept anything else.

They have your best interests in mind. They'd never lie.

Besides, you'll sleep better.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Just believe what you hear on FOX news.

They wouldn't lie to you.


We've established this is reported by multiple new agencies so that red herring is already pickled.

I see you avoided my question. Put down the bottle and explain just exactly how this grand conspiracy was carried out.


Just believe what the media tells you.

Never accept anything else.

They have your best interests in mind. They'd never lie.

Besides, you'll sleep better.


Now you are just being a hypocrite. Obviously you took at least some of the story at face value, or you wouldn't have posted the following:

Originally Posted by Bristoe
Probably American.


So I ask you again to explain this grand conspiracy. Were the Russians in on it, or how do you explain the timing where we were able to fire out missiles from either the Med or Indian Ocean and hit northern Iran at the same time as the Russian missiles from the Caspian were passing over?


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Does Russia have it's own GPS satellites? If not, I wouldn't be surprised if the GPS data was monkeyed with when they launched their missiles.



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Originally Posted by Whiptail

Does Russia have it's own GPS satellites? If not, I wouldn't be surprised if the GPS data was monkeyed with when they launched their missiles.


Russia does have their own GPS satellites, but these missiles are inertial, not GPS guided.


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Dont you guys realize that Russia just basicly handed Iran cruise missiles technology without coming under scrutiny?
All itan has to do is Reverse engineer the middle and launch them into Israel.


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Considering how Vlad’s activities in Syria are boosting oil prices, perhaps the “accidental” cruise missile landing in Iran wasn’t such an accident? Nothing like some mid-East tension to drive oil prices up.

And just a friendly reminder, “big oil” constitutes the national oil companies ~93% of the world production comes from state owned oil companies. Not some oil company/banker/Jew conspiracy.

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Originally Posted by ringworm
Dont you guys realize that Russia just basicly handed Iran cruise missiles technology without coming under scrutiny?
All itan has to do is Reverse engineer the middle and launch them into Israel.


Iran already has them. Bought them from the Russians:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/articles/20060830.aspx



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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Just believe what you hear on FOX news.

They wouldn't lie to you.


We've established this is reported by multiple new agencies so that red herring is already pickled.

I see you avoided my question. Put down the bottle and explain just exactly how this grand conspiracy was carried out.


Just believe what the media tells you.

Never accept anything else.

They have your best interests in mind. They'd never lie.

Besides, you'll sleep better.


Now you are just being a hypocrite. Obviously you took at least some of the story at face value, or you wouldn't have posted the following:

Originally Posted by Bristoe
Probably American.


So I ask you again to explain this grand conspiracy. Were the Russians in on it, or how do you explain the timing where we were able to fire out missiles from either the Med or Indian Ocean and hit northern Iran at the same time as the Russian missiles from the Caspian were passing over?


Relax,...you're going to cause an idiot stampede.

They occur on a frequent basis on here.

They're ugly to witness

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So the Russkies missed a whole country? That's some shootin right there.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Just believe what you hear on FOX news.

They wouldn't lie to you.


We've established this is reported by multiple new agencies so that red herring is already pickled.

I see you avoided my question. Put down the bottle and explain just exactly how this grand conspiracy was carried out.


Just believe what the media tells you.

Never accept anything else.

They have your best interests in mind. They'd never lie.

Besides, you'll sleep better.


Now you are just being a hypocrite. Obviously you took at least some of the story at face value, or you wouldn't have posted the following:

Originally Posted by Bristoe
Probably American.


So I ask you again to explain this grand conspiracy. Were the Russians in on it, or how do you explain the timing where we were able to fire out missiles from either the Med or Indian Ocean and hit northern Iran at the same time as the Russian missiles from the Caspian were passing over?


Relax,...you're going to cause an idiot stampede.

They occur on a frequent basis on here.

They're ugly to witness


In this case, it looks like you are the leader.


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Yeah,..I better go sit in front of the TV and see if I can get over the effects of takin' the red pill some years back.

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