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Originally Posted by bellydeep
My guess would be that an action screw is possibly bottoming out and preventing the rifle from getting held firmly in the stock.


I'm no 'smith though. Its just kind of a logic thing.

I'd check the screws and then re-bed.


I agree on the front action screw, looks like the rifle is moving around in the stock a lot.

Can you see rubbing from the front action screw bottoming out in the screw hole?

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Odin- That bedding job they did is IMO Crap! Id cut it out and rebed it all including bedding the tang.
Also check to see that the mag box isnt binding when everything is tightened down.

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Originally Posted by 805
Odin- That bedding job they did is IMO Crap! Id cut it out and rebed it all including bedding the tang.
Also check to see that the mag box isnt binding when everything is tightened down.


Yep all kinds of stress rubs , front screw is probably too long

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Good news. Legendary Arms Works agreed to give me a full refund of my money today. Glad to have my money back, but would much rather had that rifle in a copy that shot well. Such a nice rifle in the hand and a company I really wanted to support (veteran owned). Maybe some other day after they've worked out all of the kinks.

To all of you that offered comment, thanks for all of the help.

Now what to buy to replace it?

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Another range day coming up on Friday.... Film at 11....

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Another successful trip to the range with the LAW.....

Rl22 and 150 Scirocco's.. Nice group... About 3050.....

Other than the minor bedding issue I fixed, no complaints on the rifle, or how it shoots.

I'll probably Hunt with it as is, then bed it over the winter.

Too bad LAW didn't bed it....it would have been perfect out of the box.

Hope it wasn't a bean counter decision to not bed these... If it was, it was a poor decision.

Be that as it may, I'm happy with it.

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hicountry,

Over the weekend, I saw one of these rifles in a local gun shop. After handling it, I was unable to leave the store without it....Then, I found all of the threads online about the accuracy issues and reported poor customer service.

I'm torn on what to do at this point, but I really want this rifle to shoot and don't have a lot of time to "make" it shoot (that's why I purchased a rifle in the class I thought I had). Mine appears to have the same issue that yours did with a stock pressure pt near the barrel shank. Did you do anything to yours other than sand this out such that the barrel is floated clear back?

As I mentioned before, I really want this rifle to shoot and am torn on whether to fiddle with it or just return it.

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Originally Posted by hicountry


Too bad LAW didn't bed it....it would have been perfect out of the box.

Hope it wasn't a bean counter decision to not bed these... If it was, it was a poor decision.

Be that as it may, I'm happy with it.

Tony


The pre-production salesman samples we're individually pillar bedded. I took the sample out of the stock and examined everything. The bedding job on the sample I saw was phenomenal.

I later found out the production rifles would utilize bedding blocks. Honestly, it think individual bedding would have eliminated most of their issues...


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They skipped bedding for $1800 bucks? What a shock! smile

That's OK. They like to bed some Kimbers on top of the mag box for $1300. confused




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Being in business, especially a manufacturing related business, I've seen the wrong corners attempted to be cut so many times as to make me vomit.

It takes a backbone and a strong will to stand up to the bean counters that will wreck your product with their cost saving schemes.

Saving a buck that results in putting out a flawed product happens more than you'd think.

Your reputation is established as soon as the consumer can form an opinion.

Some companies are willing to gamble with that in order to save a dollar.

Once ruined, it's hard to regain. When going into production, to many can't see the forest for the trees.

Bottom liners. Avoid them- They're Investor and not customer driven.


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Killbux,

Only sanded the area around the bbl shank, and nothing else. Mine is now free floating back to the recoil lug.

After the season is over, I'll bed it.Mine is shooting pretty good as is, but I I'll still bed it.

JohnMoses,

I couldn't agree with you more.

LAW snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by cutting corners.

UFB....

Still, it is a pretty nice rifle, and I am very happy with mine.

Tony

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Hopefully they'll get into the business of just selling the actions. I think I could like one of those.

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Love the action, and overall weight and balance.

I've had several bansner stocks, and really like the ergos.

LAW has a really nice platform, all they need to do is tweak the execution.

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Exactly. Nice components. Lousy assembly. Same old story.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Anyone else have any hands on experience?? I'll be mounting a scope tonight and, with luck, shooting this weekend.

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Ok, I lied. I said I would wait until the winter to bed my LAW, but upon further review, I could not take it....LOL

All I have to say is stress, stress, stress (No not me) in the bedding. Tang especially flexed down quit a bit, as did the stock fore-end, as you tightened the guard screws.

So I'll put my money where my mouth is, and took some pics of the process :

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You can see where the shank was hitting the stock, on the right side....

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Stock all prepped and ready for epoxy

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All gooped up....

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Action set in, centered using a bedding bolt, with electrical tape wrapped around the shank so that it is a tight fit in the front guard screw hole (self centers front guard screw in hole)

Also, I cut index card shims in order to center the BBL in the BBL channel. This also sets the action to the desired height in the stock, and also seats the tang area. I may also bed the tang, after the recoil lug area cures. I always check the tang area after the recoil lug are if bedded. I.e., I bed in a two step process...if the tang needs it..

I'll take more pics after I pop it out.

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PS...forgot to add...I use Johnson's Paste Floor Wax as a release agent.

Never have any problems popping the action out.

Tony

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These are the type of threads that make the "Fire" great. Can't tell you how many things I have researched here with the search function. Watching the startup of the LAW rifles has been interesting and a bit disappointing to say the least. Looking forward to the progress of this project.


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Ok, so here is today's lesson in abject stupidity....

I used $8 worth of epoxy, and it will take about an hour total to bed the stock.

Lets say for schits and grins that LAW pays a tech $50/hr to bed each rifle.

So for $58(add it to the price stupid bean counter, if you are that way), LAW would be selling a first rate, ready out of the box, custom grade rifle for about $1600.

But instead, someone took a stupid pill.....

WTF, is it that hard to see this, or is it just me ?

Tony

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