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They said they found it by accident. It has to be they found the correct way to measure BC's. Good thought.
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Maybe they'll drop the hint to Nosler.
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I know.....for real.
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you....grin! Can you give him a hint and just beat the crap outta him?
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Maybe they'll adopt the 6.5SAUM, give it a new sexy name with a new longrange bullet! 6.5Hornageddon ? 6.5Hornificent ?
And their own bolt action rifle platform??
Nosler did all the above recently didn't they?
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Regardless of what "it" is, they should just make boatloads of 22LR.
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I know.....for real.
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you....grin! Can you give him a hint and just beat the crap outta him?
Golden............
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Was hoping that they'd have "wow" factor type BC numbers. They are good tho. Cant wait to try some out. http://www.hornady.com/new-products
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wellillbefuked hey...........i cant believe i got through the whole video. not my place to speak on anyones bullet being another manufacturer now days.......
i look forward to trying some
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpan-7vTqesThe found that polymer tips were ablating from heat during travel and degrading the BC (meplat diameter was increasing as the bullet travelled downrange). By using a heat proof tip, they are able to better retain the BC built into the bullet. Ho Hum...Remington solved it a long time ago with the Bronze Points.
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Yeah, they shoulda made 22LR......
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Looks like the AMAX and the Interlock had a baby.
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Yeah, they shoulda made 22LR...... Ok, scratch that. .610BC 140gr 6.5 might be a doozy.
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Setting aside the idea of a melting tip (they are smarter than I am so I'll reserve judgment on that) - what they've done is provide a product with an out for those people who say "Why use a match/paper punching bullet on game? It's unethical!!!" - regardless of actual performance of the AMAX on critters - there were a lot of people who wouldn't use it because it's not labeled a "hunting bullet".
Notice the focus on the tips of the OTM types - the irregularities - that's a marketing deal. Does it really matter? I don't know - I don't shoot that long, I don't shoot bergers, I don't own a Doppler. I do know that they don't look as nice and immediate thought would be - they can NOT be as consistent in the air as something with a tip like the Hornady offering. Does that really matter? Dunno - people kill big things at long ranges with OTM types and Bergers. It works obviously but we don't really know if there's an issue because I'm not shooting them myself.
At the end - Hornady has a new bullet, it's going to compete in the minds of those purchasers who say "you can't shoot match bullets at deer - need hunting bullets, but I also want to shoot long range so I get Berger Hunting VLDs"
IMO - that's what these are aimed at (pun there).
Regardless of if the heat resistant tip is BS or truth - I sincerely doubt that Hornady has introduced a bullet that is garbage front to back.
I like and use Hornady products - admit it. The Amax's I have all measured exactly the diameter they are supposed to with 2 different set of verniers. Doesn't mean much I suppose - really but they are consistent, box to box - bullet to bullet. IME
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I see blow torched Amax you tube videos on the horizon.
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All of that and the BC is lower than the 215 hybrid. Sure it's a designated hunting bullet but the 215 will drop animals in all velocity ranges. And the Hornadys are close to the same price.
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I just can't believe they don't have a 6mm in the lineup. As popular as that bullet diameter is why wouldn't they have offered a 95-105 grain offering in the initial release? I would have loved to see some Stick testing with his BR Montucky.
I was happy to see the suggested retail price was still for 100 bullets though, and it wasn't outlandishly priced.
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I guess the real test would be:
Shoot 800 yards with an Amax Shoot 800 yards with the new one
Compare drop/groups.
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Awesome
I have a lifetime supply of Hornady bullets with defective melting tips in 3 calibers.
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Notice the focus on the tips of the OTM types - the irregularities - that's a marketing deal. Does it really matter? I don't know - Looks can be deceiving...
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