Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Long Range Hunting Hornady announcement.

I think that anyone who shoots long - meat or paper - is looking for consistency. There are tools out there for metplat uniforming IIRC and at first blush - it looks like there's no way for it to be consistent.

BUT I also suspect that it might have been a case where engineers were looking at the Doppler and not the target. Like watching a dial indicator on a lathe - it bounces all over the place and you'd think that whatever you have in there is completely out of round - then you remember that it's swinging 40% of the dial to show at 3 ten thousands bump (hyperole - you get the idea).

I have a feeling the tip deal has more to do with making the doppler happy than it does affecting the target results.

IMO - the thing here is the interlock and using them on game for people.

Rick,

No problem. I hear they are planning on offering the new tips and a little tube of glue to anyone that has the old defective melting tips. You'll have to supply your own pliers, but it shouldn't take you more than 3 or 4 minutes per bullet to retrofit....

David

In reference to Burger, the published BCs are from actual testing of said bullets with unmodified tips. While their values are an average the spread is very small. Litz did some experimenting with metplat trimming and bullet tipping and there were minor increases in published BCs. They shoot fine right out of the box.

A gunsmith friend of mine used to tell me that there was a problem with the A-Max tips for quite some time. I thought he was full of it till now

I'm starting to miss the good old days when I could hunt with CorLokts.

That would be a fair way to determine if this is a distinction without a difference.....

The 208 Amax gets a nice G1 BC boost from .648 up to .670.

Not bad if it's for real. Color me skeptical.

IIRC you are kinda the 208/30-06 aficionado in these parts. What kinda speeds are you dealing with?

With moly and RL22, 2800 fps in a 26" bbl, 2740 in a 22.5" bbl.

With moly and RL17, 2650 fps in a 22.5" bbl. 2600 fps in a 20" bbl.

I'm cautiously optimistic. I used to shoot a lot of Amax but now only have them in .224 for practice and varmints. I've been using Berger's for competition and primarily Scenar's for hunting.

Hoping they are readily available at a reasonable price...

Mind if I ask why you swap between competition and hunting?

Sure. I wouldn't say I'm swapping so much, as I have a sporter weight I use for hunting and a heavy gun for competition. I primarily shoot Scenar's in the sporter and Hybrids in the comp gun.

The Berger Hybrids shoot tighter for me, and are slicker, especially after I point them. The Scenars have always worked correctly on game, where the Hybrids have had some issues in a lot smaller sample size.

George Gardner posted that there will be a 6mm in 2016.

Thought that last part might be the case. Thanks for the info. Though a small sample size, I've been very pleased with on game results of the 139gr Scenar out of a 260. Can't see a reason to change right now.

I'll give the 6.5, 143ga ELD-X a run alongside the 140gr AMax.

I can't wait till guys start selling their AMAX stash.....I'll still shoot them...

Midway has em all up for backorder, supposed to be in on 11/28/15 !

http://www.midwayusa.com/s?userSearchQuery=eld

Powder Valley has them up for pre-order.

I plan to do the same but I'm happy with the Amax.

Just noticed factory loads that are going to be available as well. Interesting.