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as to the penetration thing, friend of mine use to keep a colt 1911 10mm in the glove compartment of the patrol car. And a 375H&Hmagnum with solids in the trunk. Some of the areas patroled houses were made out of railroad ties.
People in them laughed at 9's when told to come out. Didn't take much to convince them that was not good.
THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO
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....The 357 Sig will push 124's ~1450 fps and 147's ~1250 fps.
The 1450 is pretty ambitious as most chronograph tests I've seen show top MV at about 1350 fps for the 124s in the 357 SIG case. Very good velocity from the +/- 4" barrels the 357 SIG is usually shot from for LE or SD purposes. Hodgdon data with 124s gives 1450 fps from my Glock 32...
Too close for irons, switching to scope...
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I suppose chicken shiittts like you would run. No guts to stand your ground. Just bully people on social media. Coward!
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The 357 Sig is one of my favorite round and it doesn't get any better for a self-defense round. I was going to buy a Glock 32, but the Wolf barrel in my 23 is all you can ask for and groups better than the factory Glock barrel. I also have the Sig P239 in 357 Sig
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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I'm about to pull the trigger on one, well at least getting a barrel for my Glock 23. I figure it's a cheap way to try one out. I just pulled the trigger on one - went with the Sig P320c. Ammo and loading components should be here in a couple of days.
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Campfire Oracle
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"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Davidson's Gallery of Guns / Gun Genie was the enabler - made it way too easy  A friend's been telling me how great they are and he was right - online deposit Monday night, they shipped Tuesday and I paid the balance on pickup at LGS on Thursday. The fact they were running a sale with tritium night sights for under $500 pushed me over the edge... Online rumors of ammo / brass cost had me hesitating, but five minutes of Google-fu debunked that.
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Scott, CDNN has Sig P226 Trade ins in 40 for 399, add a 357 SIG BBL FOR ANOTHER 100 OR SO
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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I'll just throw a new barrel on the Glock 23.
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Not all bad guys are 140 and skinny as a rail. One might have punch through heavy clothing and a foot of fat. number of years ago they use to show this training video where some state trooper stops a really big fat guy in the south. trooper dumped a cylinder full of .357mag in the guy, but not putting him down. black guy fires i think a .25acp hitting trooper in the carotid artery in the neck, he died. Trooper Mark Coates... Was attacked on a traffic stop by a suspect named Richard Blackburn. Blackburn had some marijuana in his car and was paranoid. He had a NAA .22 Magnum in his pocket. First shot fired was by Blackburn into the Troopers bullet resistant vest. They grappled, Blackburn hit the ground and Trooper Coates fired six rounds of .38 Special +P hitting Blackburn five times in the torso. Blackburn was over 300 pounds and soaked up the +P .38's while firing another .22 Magnum that struck the Trooper in the upper arm and penetrated through his upper chest taking out the top of the heart. Trooper Coates was killed and that fat POS Blackburn survived.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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A .357 sig round beats the crap out of a .38 spec +P round in penetration.
And it probably could have made the difference and saved that Troppers life!
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