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Thank you sir,

Geno

Maybe Ron Paul was on to something?

Now that we are in the deep end of a pool full of sh1t where do we go from here?

Ron Paul was a candidate that would put Americans and their issues first, therefore, he could not be allowed to win.

Well no sh1t Slavek..

Now that we agree on that where do we go from here?

Ron Paul is a moron

Anybody care to guess what does "BFD" stand for? (hint: it would also fit SACharlie to a tee."

THIS, is great!

We can go back and dump on all the D presidents too if we want to... LORD knows that Carter and Clinton were both 10 times bigger POS than a Bush ever was.

Not to mention that Bush's were geniunely nice folks and respected the military, and the US....

But a liberal like SA has his liberal problems and still has his blinders on. Shame that it is.

the balfor declaration in 1918 was the start of it, when the british, think churchhill, along with other western powers agreed to draw lines in the sand to define state after the ottoman empire fell in WWI.
The british had major troop present in what's called iraq for years. Those lines in the sand didn't account for ethnic/religious differences.
Judeo/Christianity had a thousand years to develop the basis for democracy, or what's called that, in the west. There is no history of it there.
Bush made a major mistake in trying to bring democracy in the middle east and nation building. The marshall plan which worked in europe wasn't going to work there.
This compounded by the obongo pulling the troops out. But i think obongo owns it, he has had power for how long now? Very weak and ineffective president.
What happened to his "line in the sand" a few years ago on syria?
I just can't figure out if he is sunni or shia, probably sunni given the time he spent in his youth.

This is SA's "safe zone" , he knows no one can get their fingers around his throat from here .
My guess is he's much quieter in actual social settings.

Poor sac.

Yeah, we would have been a lot better off with either Jon Kerry or Al Gore. Now where is that sarcasm icon? miles

I haven't been proud of my President since January 19th, 1989.

Who ever said that hindsight is 20-20 hit the nail on the head,there are ALWAYS unforseen reprucussions from any decisions.Look at the situation that the policy of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" created.Reagan HONESTLY thought it was a good ideal for the country,and our military,and it did accomplish the much overlooked feat of weaking Russia,and in affect ending the cold war,but as we all know there was some long enduring negative affects as well,but it was an honest decision,and I still don't know if it was good,or bad,but Bush on the other hand made too many decisions for personal reasons,mainly to try to build his legacy,and the future politacal future of the Bush family..We now have the worst president we have ever had,and in comparison Bush looks good,but he was in no means a great President.

I can see where the move from San Francisco to Central Texas could have it's stresses.

To me, Bush's legacy was his naivete in thinking that the liberals in Congress and the media would remain supportive of the war effort. As soon as the dust settled from the fall of the World Trade Center, it was politics as usual for those traitors and Bush didn't respond. He didn't want to "sully" the office of the Presidency. Well, that got us Obama who has done enough sullying to cover a century's worth of administrations.

Anybody still defending Bush at this point is a friggen moron.

Eminent climate change within a 50' radius of that site, for sure.

A previous poster noted, where do we go from here. We obviously can't correct past mistakes, un-elect the clowns we've had as POTUS. Only the libs can rewrite history...

Hopefully we'll get a responsible adult in the White House and some sense can be made out of all this chaos.

Obviously it's gonna be a lot harder than if things had been consistently handled responsibly from the beginning.

DF

Then I suppose you can call me that, I think. I've written a lot on the subject (as we all have I think) and where GWB and I diverge was on HOW the war was prosecuted and of course the aftermath. He went in with about half the men required, so as units swept north, the rear was undefended and allowed insurgents to raid former Iraqi ammo dumps at will.
He allowed the dismantling of the Iraqi Army and political hierarchy, leaving behind and unemployed, bitter rabble. Add to this venomous religious hatred and that just made for the ensuing mess. He failed to port as much revenue from Iraqi oil to pay for the war and lastly and perhaps worst of all, he fell into the usual American Foreign Policy altruism, of thinking we can turn a ninth century culture into an image of a western democracy. He should have just taken useful pages from how to run an empire from the Brits. Conquer, keep them divided and keep the peace. And yes, this MESS all stemmed from the post WWI British screw up and the Jewish State. j

No worries. 50% of America believes that Obama is doing a great job.