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I had to laugh at Paul and some here on killing civilians. Paul said it was against the Constitution. I don't guess we had that during WW 2. Didn't apply to Japan and Germany. Those bombs didn't know the difference. Hasbeen


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Three Seals were on FOX this morning who emphatically stated that Trump's approach to the assault was the way it needed to be done.

The Islamic terrorists have benefitted from the other approach for far too long.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
It depends.

If Trump lead the delegate count yet didn't get the required 1237 delegates, and the RNC gave its delegates to a candidate who had less than Trump in order to push Trump aside, it would be the RNC who destroyed the GOP by refusing to yield to the majority.

The RNC frequently changes the rules in order to benefit the establishment candidate.

The fact that the party "owns" 437 delegates that they can give to any candidate they choose shows how corrupt their system is.

Essentially, any outsider running for the GOP is playing against a stacked deck.

It's especially stacked this cycle because the party is encouraging so many candidates to continue running in order to split the vote in so many directions that no-one gets the required 1237 delegates,..so the RNC can use their 437 delegates to push whoever they want into winning the nomination,....regardless of who the majority wants.

It's a messy game they're playing.


Everybody should read this.

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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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How much you got on Trump, Bob?


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Trump sounds different and behaves differently because he can.

He's not owned.


Never said he was "owned"...

Guess we will just have to wait and see what happens..

If he fails to get the nomination and stands third party, would you class that as him pushing the destruct botton on Republication voters???


It depends.

If Trump lead the delegate count yet didn't get the required 1237 delegates, and the RNC gave its delegates to a candidate who had less than Trump in order to push Trump aside, it would be the RNC who destroyed the GOP by refusing to yield to the majority.

The RNC frequently changes the rules in order to benefit the establishment candidate.

The fact that the party "owns" 437 delegates that they can give to any candidate they choose shows how corrupt their system is.

Essentially, any outsider running for the GOP is playing against a stacked deck.

It's especially stacked this cycle because the party is encouraging so many candidates to continue running in order to split the vote in so many directions that no-one gets the required 1237 delegates,..so the RNC can use their 437 delegates to push whoever they want into winning the nomination,....regardless of who the majority wants.

It's a messy game they're playing.


they did this to keep ron paul out last time...changed the rules

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
How much you got on Trump, Bob?


Bro!

WTF is your problem?





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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Originally Posted by ltppowell
How much you got on Trump, Bob?


Note: Bob and DumbassDon are both backing Trump. Just a little FYI.


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Bob,

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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Originally Posted by ltppowell
How much you got on Trump, Bob?


Bro!

WTF is your problem?





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LOL


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Steelhead

So if we know where 50,000 are but they are all living with mom and dad, we can't do anything.

BS


Yeah, but that gets complicated when most of them are in Michigan, New York and Massachusetts.


I figure if the Times can put out a map of all people with carry permits


Besides, attrition will take care of many, so long as we stop importing them by the 10's of thousands.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe

It depends.

If Trump lead the delegate count yet didn't get the required 1237 delegates, and the RNC gave its delegates to a candidate who had less than Trump in order to push Trump aside, it would be the RNC who destroyed the GOP by refusing to yield to the majority.

The RNC frequently changes the rules in order to benefit the establishment candidate.

The fact that the party "owns" 437 delegates that they can give to any candidate they choose shows how corrupt their system is.

Essentially, any outsider running for the GOP is playing against a stacked deck.

It's especially stacked this cycle because the party is encouraging so many candidates to continue running in order to split the vote in so many directions that no-one gets the required 1237 delegates,..so the RNC can use their 437 delegates to push whoever they want into winning the nomination,....regardless of who the majority wants.

It's a messy game they're playing.


I get the general jist of whats going on, although as you say, I don't know the "detail"..I am old enough to remember RP running as a 3rd party and that was not a good result the Republicans..

With regards Trump, it really does not surprise me he is close to the Clinton's..

What I don't know is what the outcome of that relationship will be and just where it fits into his motivation for standing...

As I say I hope I am wrong but I guess only time will tell...

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You girls can like Trump or not but the simple fact is he or Cruz are the best bets for this country presently. Neither is perfect but no candidate is.

Trump had the moment of the night when he shocked Wolf by stating he was all in with the pubs...the look on Wolf's face was priceless!

Anyone who votes for Clinton is either a hard core progressive (socialist)a pure party hack, and/or a brain dead leech...given her back round from Arkansas to now she has failed numerous times on every level. No partisanship speak here, just looking at her factual record.

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I would like to see Cruz win, but he MUST start connecting with everyone. He already has the true conservative vote, the tea party vote, and has a lot of the libertarian vote as they know Paul doesn't have a chance now.

the establishment is going to keep backing Rubio, Bush, Kasich or Christie no matter what. There can't be that much of an establishment voter out there so we need to get out and out number them...

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Originally Posted by FOsteology

Anyone who votes for Clinton is either a hard core progressive (socialist)a pure party hack, and/or a brain dead leech...given her back round from Arkansas to now she has failed numerous times on every level. No partisanship speak here, just looking at her factual record.


What other kind of Democrats are there?


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Originally Posted by FOsteology
You girls can like Trump or not but the simple fact is he or Cruz are the best bets for this country presently. Neither is perfect but no candidate is.

Trump had the moment of the night when he shocked Wolf by stating he was all in with the pubs...the look on Wolf's face was priceless!

Anyone who votes for Clinton is either a hard core progressive (socialist)a pure party hack, and/or a brain dead leech...given her back round from Arkansas to now she has failed numerous times on every level. No partisanship speak here, just looking at her factual record.


All of your Obama voters will vote for her or any other democrat, the Bill lovers will vote for her as they think he will really be running the office again from behind the scenes, and all of your college professors, textbook makers, big city politicians, American Communist Party (yes that is a real group) and all that want to live off the dole of others will back her as they are being good little democrats... Its an uphill battle with the mentality of today's voting populous

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I am not convinced that Trump will be around for the big race. I can't figure out his game yet.

Of course I could always be wrong, but 'knowing' people is my knack.


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Originally Posted by contendershooter
Originally Posted by FOsteology
You girls can like Trump or not but the simple fact is he or Cruz are the best bets for this country presently. Neither is perfect but no candidate is.

Trump had the moment of the night when he shocked Wolf by stating he was all in with the pubs...the look on Wolf's face was priceless!

Anyone who votes for Clinton is either a hard core progressive (socialist)a pure party hack, and/or a brain dead leech...given her back round from Arkansas to now she has failed numerous times on every level. No partisanship speak here, just looking at her factual record.


All of your Obama voters will vote for her or any other democrat, the Bill lovers will vote for her as they think he will really be running the office again from behind the scenes, and all of your college professors, textbook makers, big city politicians, American Communist Party (yes that is a real group) and all that want to live off the dole of others will back her as they are being good little democrats... Its an uphill battle with the mentality of today's voting populous


All you had to type was 'Yankees and Left Coast'


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
How much you got on Trump, Bob?

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I've donated to Trump and Cruz.

I often imagine what the polling numbers would be if the very bright Cruz was to possess the charisma of a Trump or Christie.

There's something in Cruz's interpersonal communication style that catches many off guard, I believe. It's what helps Rubio and Christie somewhat. I have no doubt that Cruz will lend his support to Trump were he the selected nominee. I also believe the reverse to be true.

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For the short version, start at minute 3:30.

Does this sound like a Hillary plant?

Trump: "When I do focus on Hillary I think she is going to fall."

I believe he's going to rip her to shreds.
In response, Hillary will play the Democrat race card, war on women, blah, blah, blah that CF Dems fall for repeatedly.



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Originally Posted by ltppowell

It makes absolutely no difference what Trump says, or does. His fans are in love with the persona of the character he is playing.
I'm pretty horrified that of those who appear to have a chance to win the nomination, I find Trump the least objectionable. That's because I find him pretty darn objectionable.

I disagree with you, though, in that I believe his appeal has more to do with the fact that folks see he doesn't care about criticisms based on political correctness, and he has no respect for the political establishment that seems to run both parties. That and he seems bound and determined to do something about illegal immigration, and even the wrong kind of legal immigration.

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