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i have a rem ADL synthetic that I want to make into a camo or something. Any ideas what to use and the procedure? thanx

Krylon rattle can camo colors and spray away, then hit it with a clear coat........Blake

Done that!! .......... Worked well! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I painted one using Brownells Aluma-Hyde II and really like the results. Lots of colors and very tough, solvent resistant finish.
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1117&title=ALUMA-HYDE%7e+II

RWO

Thanx fellas. BTW what clear coat do you use?

Krylon.........Blake

Say it with Krylon...
They make some great camo colors.

thanx

Here's one I textured with Marine Tex and then painted with Krylon Fusion for my son's 30 naught 6. Seems durable enough:

Karnis, you missed your calling............great looking work dude!!!

How do you do the black webbing?

Krylon webbing spray. I've only found two colors, silver and black.

Bell and Carlson Creative Effects system.. ran me $65 plus shipping a couple of years ago on my Howa 1500. Really like the result, and they have several patterns to choose from.

Before and after pic..

Karnis,

I'm a newbie to this so bear with me. Do you start with spraying marine tex, then krylon satin hunter green, hit it with webbing spray and seal with ? By the way, looks fantastic!

Texture with Marine Tex and a stiff small cell sponge of some type. I actually used the packing from a TSX bullet box. Mix it up and start where ever you like I usually start from the recoil pad forward. Work relatively quickly as the MT will change texture fairly rapidly. After your done the MT will be tacky, that's when I spray the stock with the Krylon. It will take a few days to cure, then hit it lightly with webbing spray and you're done. No clear coat needed in my experience.

Thank you. I'm goint to give it a whirl on a few Remington 700 stocks.

Karnis ... that's brilliant the way you use a very light coating of MT to texture the entire stock, and then quickly spray the base coat of the paint to the MT so that they "fuse" together and become one ... Can't think of a better way to insure that the paint job sticks and stays to the stock ...

whoever said it earlier was right ... you missed your calling ... or at least one of them ...

A few more questions if you don't mind: Will Marine Tex stick to a Rem Syn plastic stock? Which Marine Tex product are you using?
Thank You

It will stick, but you need to scratch the stock down with 320 or so sand paper, then "degrease" it, i.e. clean it with alcohol and don't leave any paw prints. I use surgical gloves to handle the stock so no stray "oil" gets anywhere. BTW, all of this may sound complicated but it's not difficult and quite easy to repair if'in you ding the stock, etc. If the texturing is a bit rough in places, you can sand it down a bit. Pointy MT on the cheekpiece might remove a few patches o'shhkinn. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Google up Marine-Tex, I use the gray which is the same material I use for bedding/repairing/reshaping synthetics (palm swells, comb height, etc.) works great.

Here's are a couple of others I've done:

6.5x64 Brown Precision:


7x64 Brenneke-Brown Precision:


7x57 Mtn Rifle- Ti stock:

This one?


http://www.marinetex.com/PRODUCT%20PAGE_files/All%20MarineTex%20Putty/marinetex%20prod%20info.htm

Yup, get the gray product.

Karnis, Thanks I now know how to, and what to use to paint/texture my High-tech for the Model 7 SAUM. DD

DD:

Post a pic when your done <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Great looking rifles Karnis, does it work on wood stocks too? John

Pop, their are many methods that work. I read the following in a gun mag many years ago & have utililized on both plastic, fiberglass, & wood. Use a bit of fine sandpaper to improve paint adhesion. Spray a primer of any wp color. Use wp colors to camo if desired. I then lightly spray with trunk paint. Creates an interesting finish. Spray with clear sealer ( 2 coates). I purchase @ auto supply store. I have redone a number of stocks that were worn due to bouncing in racks of atv & safari vehicles. Good luck.

On my Vanguard I used "trunk" coating spray for texture, except on the cheek piece.

Then I used Brownell's paints with a GI Joe plastic toy colored green base and some big blades of grass and some leaves for a pattern when I added rusty reds, tans, and browns.

I did all but the barrel markings area in a dark tan. It is ugly and is a deadly killer. It needs a a touch up, maybe. But I have used it now for about eight years and it has knocked around in some rough areas, on backpacks, planes, atv's, and it took a nasty drop in stride a couple of weeks ago during elk season.

Krylon is forever so make sure you want it on there. God help you if you decide to strip it off later. Unless someone knows a trick to getting rid of that s**t.

I worked on ship where it was used in the wrong place and it took wire wheels to get it off, and we had serious solvents available.

where did you get the webbing paint?
thanks,dennis

How does having webbing paint make it look like that ? Is that how it sprays it on ?

I too have been a lookin' for that webbing paint. Can't find it and nobody in the paint dept. seems to know what I'm talking about.

Webbing paint can be got thru joann.com . An artsy-craftsy place. I painted a couple, thanks to karnis' advice.


I used a rubberized clearcoat recommended by the local hardware store guy. Will see how it all holds up. Don

Did another this mornin' . 3 stocks with enuff paint left to do another, all for $20 bucks......

does that ruger wear the laminate? i painted up my savage heavy laminate similar and it really changed the look of the gun for about $10.... way happier!!

woofer

Karnis, great looking work! That's impressive. Thanks for sharing your tips.

woofer, this is the before....

and this afternoon I did the barrel and scope...After a friend said I had to get rid of the 'rag' cover <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> . Don

Gonna take a lot more paint to do your truck <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Yep, Thanks again.......

Those look sharp, Huntsman. Plus, you can get your scrapbooking supplies and webbing paint in one stop.

I never thought of that......... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

HERES ONE I DID 98 MAUSER 8MM/376 STEYR AND A HIGH TECH STOCK, THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO

Wal-mart! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I'd never think a fella would do anything to cover up a laminate! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />
But, it does look good.

Everyone's photo's are well done and show the results nicely!
I'll be looking for a stock to do similar work. Thanks for the posts!

I understand what the Krylon webbing does.
But repeat what the Marine Tex gray putty is used for?

If I understand it right, the Marine-Tex is used to create some texture on the stock. (increased gripping) serving much the same purpose as checkering on wooden stocks.

Karnes,
Which green Krylon paint did you use on your son's 30-06? Was it the Ultra-Flat O.D. Green? Looks great!!

Nice!

Anyone know a good mail order source for Krylon Fusion paint in the flat colors? All I can find are glossies.

Here are some satins.

http://www.metropartsmarket.com/krylon/krylonpaint-c11.html

http://www.themanstoreonline.com/Krylon-...tic%20paint.htm

Done a .22 also.....Don

I have done several with Krylon and some with plasti-kote's Stone Touch or crackling finish they look awesome

Krylon makes a textured fusion paint that bonds to plastic, then just cover with one of there camo fusion to flatten out the color. I have done a couple.. I have always been partial to the camo used by the military snipers, US Woodland camo, but could never figure out how to do it. Finally read somewhere that it is a reverse stencil process tried it and it works great. After a couple of texured coats cover complete stock in one of the four flat camo fusion colors. Get some of that blue painters tape at your local hardware the good stuff kinda expensive though, a small cardboard square coverd with some butcher paper shinny side up. Roll out strips of blue painters tape, and draw your camo designs cut out with xacto knife places them on your first coat of dried camo paint make sure they seal down well, do anohter coat, continure until you have used all four camo colors I believe they are black, tan, green, and brown. then peel off all your tape. Really looks good I tried clear coat but leaves it a little to glossy for my taste.

Just get some barn red from Sherman Williams. Put enough coats on it so you can't tell if it is Fiddleback Walnut or Plastic.

Wayne

I love the looks you guys have come up with!! I want to do the same to an old Win 190 that has a half way finished Tru-Oil finish over a water based stain that is going to end up looking like muddy barf. Will your finishing methods work over Tru-Oil or do i need to (sigh) strip it back to bare wood?

John
Don't Even Think of touching one of your Savages!
Steve

BTDT trying to paint over tru-oil, had poor adhesion and did not last, had to strip to bare wood...

I have a McMillan on one of my rifles. Painted black from the factory. Could I paint over it with Krylon or would I have to try to remove the factory coat first?

I actually called krylon to talk to them about their "Fusion" paint. They could not guarantee me that their paint would adhere to other manufactures paints. They told me that theirs was specifically desinged to chemically bond to plastic and to previous layers of their own paint.

As for the painting over the tru-oil, I am kinda leaning toward 1899sav, if you have a collectable you may be doing more harm then good, otherwise you want to strip the stock down to bare wood. You sounded if that would be a job. Really not that bad. Try and old timers receipe, 1 cup of clorox, 2 gallon of hot water hot as your hands can stand it (wearing gloves help) the original receipe called for mister clean, but I have replaced that with dawn dishing washing liquid. Get a sponge and go to town, should not take long to get it down to bare wood. Remember to tread lightly around any checkering, and to rinse thourghly with fresh water before you dry it off.

Karnis

The rifles you did look "Great".
RE: the marine tex when I go to their web-site they have many
different products. Which one is that you use?
Thanks for you imput!!

Get the grey product, not the white. Works for me quite nicely.

Here is pic of swede I redid with this method.

Here's another Karnis creation. He did an awesome job rescuing this HS precision stock. It was in BAD shape when he got it but it looks fantastic now!

Thanks Carlos!

What a great thread!!Great stocks done by all.Now if I could just decide on base color I want,will be doing a Brown precision stock on my ol rem 600.Thanks for the ideas.

Man oh man... I cannoy find black web paint anywhere locally. I checked 12 places that sell krylon and only came up with gold web. getting pissed!!

That is why I had to get mine online.......

http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog.jsp?CATID=cat2975&PRODID=prd33891&source=search

Great posts with very useful info. THANKS!!

Carlos, those stocks look great!

btt

Glad this got bumped, but I did find it on a search first...

Gonna do some stock painting soon.

I've a Joann Fabric and Craft store not too far away, we'll see if they carry the web paint the next time I'm out there.

Good info here.........

Question on retexturing a Kevlar Moutain.

It appears to be the same texture as Karnis' Marine Tex/sponge finish...but is worn a little from a LOT of handling.

Would it make sense to sand off the old original texure to a certain degree and retexture...or try to "patch up" what's there already?

Not building anything but a working gun but wouldn't mind a "new" rig to brag up before I beat the crap out of it myself.

My gut tells me, for a nice even rub, to "wear out" the whole thing with sand paper and start over with a new texture that's all the same......

I'd re-texture, easy to do. You don't necessarily have to "sand" it flat. You can get 40-50% "flat" re-texture and repaint. Also might be a good time to do a palm swell .

Thanks Karnis....

Best deal on Marine Tex?

Never bought/used it........

Got the Marine Tex and gotta say I've been a dumbass for not trying it before this.

First action bed went off without a hitch last night and can see how well Marine Tex is going to work for the repairs on the rest of the stock...

Had a little left over so I grabbed a TSX box sponge and a chunk of smooth polyurethaned wood to try out your texturing tips...

It's gonna work fine and the texture produced is SWEET.

I figured out though that you have to put it on thin and then pull the sponge straight up off the stock...and any smearing action frigs it up.

Thanks Karnis...good advice.

I'm going to try my hand on a takeoff Rem syn MR stock that is factory black. I've got the Krylon Fusion camo flat green and the black webbing and then plan to top it with Krylon matte clear coat (if I need to).. Hard for me to decipher whether the fusion will stick to the factory stock without doing the Marine Tex thing. For a first timer is there anything else I need to know?

Scuff it up with a scotch brite pad....

Fusion is designed to stick.

WW: glad it worked out for you. Easy to use and it is very good for fixing dings, gouges, etc. on synthetics. Hard as brick bat as well.

Kimber7man:

Make sure to degrease the stock. I've used the stuff made by Birchwood Casey to clean metal (synthetic stock version), alcohol, etc. All that after "scratching" it down. From then on I handle with surgical gloves so no oil from ma feengers gets on the plastic. Hang the stock at about eye level or a bit lower and start spraying. Don't spray it on real thick or it will run, just start covering and work your way around the stock. Follow the directions on the can as far as reapplying product.

Oh yeah, remove the sling swivels and the recoil pad if possible. If not at least mask off the pad.

Thanks guys. Will try to post a pic once I get it done.

Carlos,

Thanks to you my 223 looks like a brand new rifle, I cant't wait to get some pics up.

Pics would be great. Glad it helped.

Here are a few pics, I got a little carried away with the webbing in a couple spots, but I'm really happpy with how it turned out.

Win Mod 70 Super Shadow 223 wssm.

elkchsr

I just ordered a synthetic stock for my son's ultralight and I plan on doing the exact paint scheme for his. You did a great job, congratulations. Is that the Krylon camo ultra flat?

GreggH

GreggH,
Thanks alot. The paint is the krylon ultra flat.

Has anyone painted over rino liner? Its the stuff they put in you're truck box. I have a HS percision that the smith who built the gun did up but want to paint over it. Will Krylon paint stick to it?

Gonna take this a step further...by mistake, and a dose of ingenuity.

Been hunting just the right shade of Gray to go with the Sniper Gray cerekote on my 700 LA, and had figured on black web painting as well.

Having struck out on the right Gray color paint, as all I could find was gloss rustoleum in a kinda close shade, I mixed up a bunch of test pieces textured with Marine-Tex....which just happens to be "gray" and got to thinkin'......

Problem is, it's more black than gray until it's sanded. I scuffed off the cured "sponged texture" with a scotch brite pad and discovered the EXACT texture I wanted, plus a lighter shade of gray....perfect.

So, I have a can of Krylon flat clearcoat that's mixed in with the 15 or so assorted cans I've bought to just "try", and shot it with the clear. Turned out nice and satiny flat but it went back to "black" as soon as it got wet, too dark. Stayed that way too.

So I was figuring a way to lighten the "black" Marine-Tex, as I've done the accraglass brown thing on wood stocks, and was wishing I'd got the white too, and maybe try darkening it. I remembered then, a half used up double tube of white Marine Epoxy I used to patch a boat somewhere, and the light bulb went on.

Holding my breath for fear of mixed chemicals, but not at all deterred from trying, I managed to "mix" just the right shade of Gray and sponge textured it onto a chunk of wood.

Figured after it cures, if it actually does, I can scuff it up with a scotch brite the same way and shoot it with the clear, and get my shade of gray. If the same holds true I'll have just the right stock finish less any paint to maybe chip off.

There's lots of epoxy dyes out there and it seems like it might could work for a wider spectrum of colors. Thinkin' I'll try a Web Paint speciman as well to decide if it needs that or not, on this rifle. Likely can web spray it then try clear coating over the web spray to meld it in together, better.

Don't hurt to try different stuff, I'd guess........

Mixed up the proper gray shade last night and put the texture on.

Turned out nice.

Should have a pic of it by the end of the weekend........

Have any of you used RustOleum paint on you're stocks? Seem's Krylon is the fave but I cannot find any flat green here.

Will RustOleum do just as well?

Good question Passport. I bought a can of their Deep Forest green camo on the way home from work yesterday.

Looking forward to hear what people have to say as well. I wonder if a guy outta use primer with it?

That is what Im thinking........ Coat of primer and then have at it.

Im getting ready to paint, what is the best way to hang the gun when applying the paint?

Coat hanger through the front sling swivel hole barrel is what I do. Start from the barrel channel side through the other end.

Thanks Karnis.

I've an electrical screw driver with the rubberized coating the length of the shank. Just so happens it squeezes nice and snug into the forward stock bolt hole after I ream 'em out to give the bolts clearance in completion of a bedding job.

Having that screw driver handle makes holding and hanging the stock any which way pretty easy.

Just used it last night to apply the texture on the one I've been talking about.........

I just painted the el' cheapo stock on my M700 about two hours ago. Found some plastic primer and followed it up with some Rustoleum "Earth" camo paint.

Upon removing the recoil pad I replaced a screw into the stock and tied a string to it. Hung it from a hook in the garage ceiling and sprayed away.


Just brought it in to spend the night with hot water heater.

My only concern thus far is that it's a little too flashy. I hope it don't spook critters....grin


Seriously, do you people use a clear coat afterwards?

Looks good!

Rustoleum has a flat clear coat that'll knock the shine off...

It can dull glossy paint down to a satin finish, tried that with mine in my quest for the right gray color, so it'd likely help you on yours.

It's the same clear coat I'm going to put over the tinted Marine Tex on mine this afternoon.........

Thanks Passport.

It turned out darker than I wanted so she's gonna get a coat or two of some lighter paint. Hopefully the hardware store has the clear coat you're talkin' about Wilds.