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But it's got a long barrel shank.

Yes, but I'm thinking the young lady will not notice.

Here is the final kicker. If I'm buying a rifle that my young 12 year old Daughter or Son will sometimes use, then even if it made specs, I'm not going saddle them up with an 8pound plus rifle. In today's world, even most adults are leaning the other way for a carrying rifle.

Yes, they didn't get their website upgraded, but they did offer some solutions. Blind magazine and possible future floor plate upgrades. Next years hunting season is a good way off and a good chance exists this rifle will make wrestling weight by then. A small amount of patience sometimes reaps large rewards.

Just me, but who was the rifle bought for in the first place.

Like death and taxes....

Hats off to Darrick and Montana for the effort they put into this. And i don't have one!

I would only add that I don't care for the long action ejection port relief on the stock with a short action. I would have to have that fixed right away.



Second: The little bit of extra metal on the barrel shank means no more than 1 1/2 ounces. I wouldn't give that a second thought.

I'm guessing the stock is the main reason for the weight difference. A pretty easy but time consuming fix for the builder.

Buy an Edge, flute the barrel and move on...

Don't pour more money into it

Sell it and move on

You're probably right.

SAS you're right, I handled this situation poorly by posting the email train. You've gone out of your way to help me and others on this forum by bringing us these group buys and many other 24Hr only specials. I am truly sorry for putting you in this situation. You have been nothing but professional in my dealings with you and your company.

I also owe Jeff at MRC an apology. In my initial email I didn't ask for anything, because I didn't know what options would be available if any to fix the weight issue. I do appreciate the workmanship and detail put into this rifle, just not the weight. Jeff has gone above what I expected in the customer service department, by saying he'd personally doing the work for the conversion to the blind magazine himself. Again this was far above what I expected.

I'm making no excuses for my actions, and I probably let some personal things that are happening in my life bleed into this "disaster" without realizing it. I was excited to be receiving this rifle after seeing the good results in the .260 Group buy. I let my disappointment get the better of me when the rifle was not what I expected. I pushed when I probably should have let the issue drop, and again I am sorry for doing that.

After reading this thread the only firm conclusion I can come to is this: I need to buy a rifle from SAS. Perhaps an MRC 7x57....

Yep total agreement

Impression of the one MRC rifle I have is they are made to a high standard. Work them without knowing what you have in your hand and you may think 70 pre 64. Well almost, but close. Accuracy is fine, but there will always be variables and some who talk better than they shoot.

Certainly not a LW, but they don't make any claims to be one. However a FW barrel contour wouldn't be a bad move on their part.

I bought a Sako Roughtech pro on a whim(because of a really good CABELAS DEAL) a few months ago in 7 Rem mag. Factory weight is supposed to be 6.8 , actual weight on a postage scale was 7 lbs 9 ounces.

I have handled 2 of them at a LGS and liked both of them.

4 more internet pages confirming the old addage that, "No good deed goes unpunished", especially if you have an internet forum to complain about your problems on.


Kudos to SAS for trying, but hoping to please everyone's whims is like trying tp push a log chain up a steep hill. Furthermore, its too bad that one person's problems have to be publicly aired on a forum where even more people will never agree. But I guess thats the definition of the internet.

I for one am glad this "one" person publicly aired his problems and issues with his rifle....I learned there are still more problems in yet another rifle manufacturers qc and cr departments they should take notes from the handloading industry

I don't know SAS but I do know he is a businessman and will be just fine without any more 24 bs

This was inevitable....

A chopped glass stock would save $ and increase weight, no?

The extended ejection port inlet is a COMPLETE ZERO for a rifle like this... sheesh.

3 major issues visible with just one picture- one of which is the whole cause of this thread, however, weight is actually a functional issue. The long shank and incorrect ejection port are cosmetic, but how can such things be remotely expected on a semi-custom rifle? Maybe they have a strength reason for the extended shank, maybe not.

What it looks like is they use the same barrel contour for short and long actions and the same stock ejection port for both as well. Why build two action lengths if the whole gun does not follow the action size?

These are 3 things that many potential buyers will immediately see at a show such as SHOT. They will pick up the gun and notice the weight, then look it over and notice the other things. At least if it was just feeding and accuracy issues (as seen in the other thread here), those wouldn't be immediate first impression factors by buyers seeing the gun in person.

The only problem I see here is that apparently the OP mistakenly ordered a standard sporter weight rifle when what he wanted was a Featherweight.

I don't see how this is a problem for the manufacturer or why it's their responsibility to "fix" it, how they are even expected to "fix" it, considering that the rifle is the "wrong" rifle choice for the customer.

The "dealer" is the correct party to deal with complaints made their customers who might want something different than what they bought after taking it home and fondling it...it happens.

The correct solution is to return the rifle that the customer ordered by mistake, and is now, as one might expect, unhappy with to the dealer, and then exchange it for a different rifle that he thinks he wants now.

Some dealers will do this with a registered NIB rifle and some won't, and either policy is fine, as long as it's made clear to the buyer before the transaction is made.

That is a standard policy for most businesses.

However, in this case it seems like the dissatisfied customer is insisting on making some vacuous claim that the product is defective in order to try to get the manufacturer to do a bunch of custom work for free. I wouldn't enable this for many different reasons, and one primary reason is because it doesn't address the problem, ie, that the customer has a rifle that isn't right for him.

Both of these companies look to be very stand-up folks, but the manufacturer choosing to handle this situation in this manner, is only going to open up a can of worms that will still solve none of the fundamental problems.

The manufacturer should have properly referred the customer back to the dealer to resolve it, and if I were the dealer, I would have ripped the manufacturer a new one for interfering with my business transaction with my customer. The manufacturer should only step-in if the dealer refers him.

The policy of enabling a disgruntled customer and buying into their scenario that gives credence to incorrect and obscure warranty claims serves none of the parties well, especially the customer, and will almost never result in a good outcome.