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Hi Bob. Sorry, I was referring to the comments above RE 300WM v. 300 WSM.  One thing the .30 Noz has going for it is available brass. Sucks that this is such a "thing", but it is.
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Hi Bob. Sorry, I was referring to the comments above RE 300WM v. 300 WSM. One thing the .30 Noz has going for it is available brass. Sucks that this is such a "thing", but it is. Oh...OK Jeff. Missed that. Yeah today brass IS an issue. i am out scrounging 300 RUM for some friends. They can't find the Remington stuff I guess. 
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Another solution to a problem that doesn't exist....so now we 8 or 9 varieties of a 300 Magnum.
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So far I haven't seen a pic of the 30 Nos There is a pic in the LINK in the original post! Mike
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So far I haven't seen a pic of the 30 Nos There is a pic in the LINK in the original post! Mike Okay - thanks. Obviously I didn't check that. Jerry
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I believe Nosler will be more committed to keeping component brass available with their line of cartridges then we see with the RUM, SAUM, WSSM, RCM, WSM lines.
Of course if you stay traditional Win Mag then no problem.
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Mike, Nosler seems more committed to keep even some of THOSE available! Very frustrating. When was the last "seasonal run" of say WW 7 WSM?
On that note, surprised nobody has stepped up to make 7 WSM brass. Nosler is making even .325 WSM brass.... but no 7.
Considering the amount of press and advertising these companies pay for when the launch these cartridges it's unfathomable that they let them wither on the vine unsupported. Then again, Rem has been a bit distracted with the whole "these £!€¥%# triggers are going to put us out of business!" thing and Winchester did undergo a sea change. But still.
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NOSLER® ANNOUNCES THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THEIR CARTRIDGE FAMILY: THE 30 NOSLER® Bend, Ore. – January 8, 2016 – Nosler is proud to introduce the newest member if its cartridge family, the 30 Nosler®. Sharing the same parent case as the 26 and 28 Nosler® cartridges, the 30 Nosler® takes all the best attributes of currently available 30 magnums and combines them in one cartridge. The 30 Nosler® easily meets the velocity of the 300 Weatherby, headspaces on the shoulder like a 300 RUM, has an efficient powder column like the 300 WSM and fits in the same standard length action of a 300 Winchester Magnum. The 30 Nosler® is a SAAMI standardized cartridge making for consistent brass and chamber dimensions industry wide. Nosler will be supporting this new cartridge with Nosler® Brass, Trophy Grade™ Ammunition and naturally, the full line of M48 rifles in 26” barrel configurations. The initial offerings in Nosler’s Trophy Grade™ Ammunition provide the ideal blend of velocity, power and downrange terminal performance. They are: Nosler® Trophy Grade™ Ammunition – 180gr AccuBond® 3200fps Nosler® Trophy Grade™ LR Ammunition – 210gr AccuBond® LR 3000fps The 30 Nosler® shares the same parent case as the 26 & 28 Nosler® as well as the C.O.A.L. of 3.340” allowing this cartridge to be operated in a standard length action for lighter weight and shorter bolt throw when compared to magnum length actions. For the most current information on Nosler® product announcements, visit Nosler’s Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/NoslerInc
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Here's a little more info. http://www.30nosler.com
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Less recoil....same power ? How does this occur.
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Is it just me, or is their data for the comparison cartridges mighty conservative? And the bar graphs with a 10% delta, while the bars themselves are 3x to 4x? I wish Nosler would stick to making components.
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I guess the headspace issue holds true once! While shooting factory loads..
We all know as reloaders it's a moot point.
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Mmm...No question the 30 Nosler is a very good 30 caliber magnum..you can't deny any manufacturer the right to make claims for its products. But when they do it by dumbing down the competition, you cock a skeptical eye brow.  I have yet to see a 300 Weatherby that wouldn't goose a 200 gr bullet at 3000-3100 fps;or a 180 gr at 3200, both from a 26" barrel. Ironic, in light of claims, that Noslers own loading manual shows pretty much the same things for the 300 Weatherby. Of course both are faster than 300 Win Mag. They both hold more powder.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Agreed. The one that really proves its propaganda is the velocities they show for the RUM. I would love to know how a cartridge, based on the same case, with less volume is going to outrun its larger brethren. Yet their comparison shows it...must be true.
Surprised they didn't show it outrunning the .30-378Wby while they were on a roll.
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What this boils down to is about about 5" less drop vs. .300WinMag at 400 yards with scope mounted 1.5" above bore axis and 200 yard zero. 
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Can someone tell me what rifles are designed for a 2 1/2" case? I'm familiar with short actions for, say, .308 and longer actions like for .300 Wea. But I don't know off hand something designed around the .30-06. What's the value?
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Can someone tell me what rifles are designed for a 2 1/2" case? I'm familiar with short actions for, say, .308 and longer actions like for .300 Wea. But I don't know off hand something designed around the .30-06. What's the value? You mean like a Mauser 98 or Ruger 77?
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Can someone tell me what rifles are designed for a 2 1/2" case? I'm familiar with short actions for, say, .308 and longer actions like for .300 Wea. But I don't know off hand something designed around the .30-06. What's the value? Rman, Kimber designed an action specifically around the '06 parent case. The value is that it's only as long & big around as it needs to be. Very slender and light. I believe Noz was referring to the 30 not needing a true magnum length action to achieve it's ballyhooed world-beatin' ballistics. 
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Probably the last thing the shooting public needs is another fast 30. seems like a silly waste of resources at this point.
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