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I purchased a Dakota safety / bolt shroud for the two 7mm's, ( Brownell part 359-141-070WB Model 70-Style Shroud Mfr Part: EMUNNN001 approx. $150) and a Recknagel for the 8mm.
The Recknagel came from NECG, cost a bout $250 and is a very very good safety / shroud. It is silver colour however, not my first preference. It has a locking tab that is particularly nice. Press down with your thumb while moving it off safe, instinctive and smooth with zero chance of bumping the safety off accidentally.
The old shroud is removed, the new one simply screwed on, however the notch for the safety catch on the firing pin must be properly fitted by a gunsmith. All in, about a $300 job. Well worth it IMHO.
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Just a few more comments:
About the name - these rifles are actually not made by "CZ Brno" but by Zbrojofka Brno, a rival factory that was taken over by CZ a few years ago.
An a comment for all those frustrated by mounting a scope on these rifles with the butterknife bolt handle. If you have the factory receiver dovetail model, a really wonderful receiver sight is made by Recknagel sold by NECG. Fits with no gunsmithing, instantly removable and replaced without losing zero, excellent sight picture. I put one on my 8x57.
Talley medium QD ringmounts work well if you have the round bolt handle version.
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8x57 rebored and rechambered to 9.3x62mm and stock work done by a member here
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OP, you're going to like your new rifle. I have three of them, ( bottom to top) a 22F 7x57, and a 21H 7x64 and a 21F 8x57. I used the 8x57 this fall to take a bull elk on the run, really like the way these rifles handle. I have upgraded the safeties on all mine, to a model 70 style. I replaced the double trigger on the 22F and did some other minor upgrades on all three. The are now near perfect artistic hunting rigs. C&B, what is the difference between the 21F and the 22F aside from chambering? Thanks, Geo
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You did really good! That is beautiful.
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Thanks Whitebird. I ended up finding one for sale so I got to keep the ZKW. They are the same year, both in super condition, they make a nice pair. I do need a shooter in half stock though.
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That's a real pretty pair, is that a 21 or 22 with the factory standard bolt handle knob? Nice! The ZKW looks well loved.
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where do I find a sling for my narrow Czech sling swivels?
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Oh, the ZKW465's I'd been wanting one for years. I broke down last year and bought one. Very nice little rifles.
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That's a real pretty pair, is that a 21 or 22 with the factory standard bolt handle knob? Nice! The ZKW looks well loved. The half stocks are 21 and the full stock are 22...see the advertisement in one of the posts above. Yes it is the model 21 factory round bolt, the last of the 21's made use of the Zg47 bolt handle...but not the bolt body, they still used the bolt body with the oval holes where the Zg47 has round holes under the bolt body. I cheated by using the '56 21 bolt and machined the 1950 action to the same spec as the '56, this gave me a 1950 model 21 with fine checkering in 7x64 Brenneke with a factory round bolt and dual dovetails. The holy grail. Happy birthday to me, ha....
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nicely done, sir!
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Great eye candy on this thread.
I will bust open the piggy-bank if I can find a nice Brno in the 7x57 mm.
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That's what I just got (7x57)
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Great eye candy on this thread.
I will bust open the piggy-bank if I can find a nice Brno in the 7x57 mm. There's a decent one on GB right now. I have never seen a 21 or 22 local, I did find my ZKW local.
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FYI There is a 22f at cabelas in Tualatin Oregon, Its 1500.00 i think chamerd in 8x57. It has claw mounts but no rings. Might be real spendy to put rings on it...tj3006 Fifteen hundred is too much for something like that and putting rings on Suhler mount in America is foolishness. I want to help and here is weapon easily equal to the Czech rifle>> Made in West Germany for hunting goods retailer.... Quality American steel rings and bases plus nice very usable scope are major bonuses. This outfit should be good to about 300m. It is just as good as Brno rifle. You like?
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C&B, what is the difference between the 21F and the 22F aside from chambering?
Thanks, Geo
There is some confusion about the nomenclature. If I understand correctly, the model 21 is the long barrel version and 22 is the carbine. Both were made in full stock ( F) and half stock ( H ) versions. The long barrel full stock versions are quite rare. I have seen model 21-22 rifles in 7x57, 7x64, 8x57IS, and 8x60S, and I believe some may have been made in 9.3x62 and 6.5x57 as well. Both models came in round top on the older versions and double square bridge & grooved receiver on the newer ones, double set triggers on nearly all, and a very few with a single trigger. butterknife bolt was standard, with a few later ones with round knob bolt better for low scope mounting. My 8x57IS 21H was a real find with the round knob bolt and single trigger.
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There is no confusion at all, the advertisement shown in a previous post clearly depicts the half stock model as 721, and the full stock model as 722.
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Not confusing to you, but that poster is from the USA, they were not marketed in Canada with the "7" as part of the model number, just 21H or 22F, and sometimes 21F and 22H. I have seen several rifles advertised that mixed up the designations 21 and 22, so at least some people are confused.
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