Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire My year of terror and abuse teaching at a NYC high school

It starts in the elementary schools. So students learn by the time they enter middle school that most of the time a lecture and phone call home is all that is going to happen when they misbehave.

Good luck creating a school environment that's scarier than living in a ghetto. I'm sure the teacher's beating will be more severe than those doled out by coked up muggers.

Google "cultural pollution".

I used to copy paste this article here on the fire regularly.

The website was mind hyphen trek dot com.

Go find it.
Read it.
Post it here for me.

The author sizes things up nicely.

Thank you.
And, you're welcome.

Excellent point.

Try getting some kid who has good reason to fear for his life on the way home to really give a rip out protons, neutrons and electrons.

Someone please post it.
I can't copy paste on this damned phone.

People need to read it.
NEED!

Cultural Polution

The teaching method is simple.
Not magic, just simple.

It's called discipline.

You, of all on here, should recognize the root word inside there...

Disciple.
Discipline.
See the connection?

Add "consistency" to that formula...as a teacher I found that discipline *and* consistency made for a great classroom. It's a lot like being a parent: a ton of work; but it makes all the difference.

The pressure by the Feds to keep problem children in school is absolutely tremendous. These kids only poison the atmosphere for those kids who truly want to learn.

We need to get the Feds out of the school and stop talking about the civil rights of the "problem" children and start talking about saving those kids that are salvageable. They have civil rights too. Something the liberal intellectuals seem to forget while they are pandering to the poor and minorities.

kwg

Part of the problem is no one wants to acknowledge that all students are not equal. It is unfair and detrimental to task a student, whose intellectual capacity was met in 8th grade, with spending another four years trying to get a high school diploma. They should be prepared to go to work at their capacity and start saving up for a down payment on a house and medical fees for having children. This puts them on a more level playing field with those that get a high school diploma or more. Even with a lower pay rate, they'd have cash in the bank or the market, whereas their smarter peers would be broke or in debt for student loans at the same age.

Making them waste themselves on high school puts them at a disadvantage compared to smarter peers because they cannot compete that way. Give them several years head start working.

And if they won't work then don't feed them or help them birth their babies.

I've been saying the same thing for years.

I think that most responses on this thread completely miss it.

If there are not two parents at home in the first five years of their life, then they are not going to have much of a life after that without extreme amounts of intervention.

Since almost none of them have intact nuclear family units, then they will have no good present or future prospects.

The problem is that these children are reflection of their parents who are just as bad or worse. It is impossible for school to overcome terrible parenting.

That is very true. It is also true that it is not the responsibility of the schools to make up the deficiency at the expense of the other students, nor is it the job of the teachers to put up with the lack of respect that is shown to them.

One very good example of the nettles of the "Great Society" weeds planted by LBJ - nourished ever since by certain greedy (mostly Dem) politicians and witless liberals. But, they will be the last to acknowledge the outcomes of their work.

From 1987 to 1991, I started & managed a joint venture in the automotive parts manufacturing business with a Japanese company.

I spent a fair amount of time in Japan & had several Japanese people in the plant reporting to me.

Over time, & sometimes after a fair amount of saki & beer, they would tell me that "the blacks are destroying your country".

Given the time interval & what's happened since that time, I'd say they were mostly right.

The influx of illegal Mexicans has simply made the situation worse.

YMMV or you may see thing differently...........

MM

Pandering to the "problem children" in the school house is exactly what the "Great Society" programs are doing now and since LBJ and congress shoved it down our throats. Left leaning politicians are pandering to selected minorities for the votes and power and then sending the bill to working class Americans and telling us "it's good for America" that we do this. I'm not convinced.

What happens in Congress trickles down and affects America, mostly in a negative way. The Japanese outsiders you point out Montana Man got to see it from an objective point of view. (Outsiders looking in) I would venture to guess the same thing is now spreading out to the Millennials and those who have been displaced in the work place by cheap foreign labor, as well. Our future is looking bleak.

As with any problem, it has to be identified for what it is & called by that name, in order to fix it.

The worst thing in this country is allowing members of congress unlimited terms, appointing SCOTUS for life & allowing them to all become extremely rich as a result of being there.

They no longer represent either the people nor the will of the people.

And, obviously, they are afraid to exercise their power to restrain the executive branch.

MM

They are stupid, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out a liberal which most teachers are. They game the system figuring they will make some money dealing or the government will give it to them. How smart do you have to be for that. If they weren't stupid they'd try to learn something so they can make a life for them selves. Most of these hood rats will end up in jail or the ground. I don't care if they end up in the ground...booo hoo. If they end up in jail we are paying for their lazy azzes.

Follow the money!
Birdy - what is a student worth, dollar-wise, to the SA school system?
Back when we pulled our daughter out (for 1 year, in the early '90's) she was worth almost 8 grand to the schools, IIRC!
I can't believe the price has gone down.
Boils down to $$$$$$. Hence we have let the students take over the asylum.