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ya just gotta love folks that don't even give the owners a notice.....

I'd do some killing myself, but it might not be all 4 legged ones...

I have to admit my wife and I have had at least one discussion advocating the use of e-collars for child rearing but acknowledged the "legality" of it would be difficult to defend! Now on the other hand, some of these dog owners.....

Love coursing dogs. Never owned any, just didn't live any place where they would be practical but your example above of running children causing instant albeit potentially deadly prey drive hits it hard on the head. I wouldn't be surprised if many of these dog attacks, including deaths, start out as just that scenario, like wolves going on "surplus killing" spree in a flock of sheep.

The bigger point here is that most if not all breeds of dogs are capable of mayhem, including death. Singling out certain breeds, yet discounting others just leaves innocents vulnerable to a lot of pain and suffering. Just like guns, dogs are, one way or another, only as legitimate as their owners/breeders.

I don't need someone who is so fugking ignorant they can't figure out the difference between precedes and proceeds to tell me [bleep]. Apologist ass wipes like you are just one more part of the problem and you need to either get involved in killing off the POS pits in the world or fixing them. IT'S THE FUGKING BREED STUPID... THERE'S NOT A PIT. IN THE COUNTRY THAT OUGHT TO BE TRUSTED AROUND CHILDREN WITHOUT ADULT SUPERVISION THAT'S READ TO KILL THAT JOB ON A MOMENT'S NOTICE, AND WILLING TO KEEP THE MEANS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT AT HAND. Every other week some sweet wouldn't hurt anything pit turns into a killer. I don't care if the damn dog kills it's owner or his kid(s). That is nobody's definition of a companion animal.

I've run field trial bird dogs for a long tme. Spare me the ignorant gibberish about prey drive. I've seen a lot of them that are so extreme in their prey drive they are completely atypical of their breeds and incomprehensible to most hunters as bird dogs.

The world has well more than enough ignorant ass wipes to go around and won't miss any that get euthanized with the same bottle of sodium pentabarb used on their pits. I for one am convinced we would all be better off if they and their dogs no longer drew breath.

You really need to deal with these anger issues, Miles.

However, (speiling and grameer aside) if you reread my posts you will find in no way I have apologized for pitbulls or their owners. I would have done the same thing as the OP if faced with a similar scenario and have myself put a slug in the skull of a dog that was not raised properly and had a serious pack leader complex that got out of hand.

Any idiot, knows that pit bulls have the potential of being killers and they've proven as much many times. Of course there are those owners and their children who have been saved by their pit bulls from attacks by both 2 and 4 legged creatures and would send lead your way if you tried put their dog down. The same can be said of many other breeds. Check out the link: http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/dog-attack-deaths-maimings-merritt-clifton-2013.pdf Pits are obviously at the top of the list, but there are a lot of other breeds that maim and kill. Even you beloved English Setter put its mark on the list for at least one maiming.

People who want to equate the relationship between firearms and their owners with dogs and their owners lose sight of the fact that no firearm has ever harmed anyone of its own volition.

But people with firearms have. The banners don't so much want to eliminate firearms, as they do people having them, unless you're a cop or a soldier, or a liberal's bodyguard.

Nope, leave em for the buzzards! Now a wild hog now and then that ain't too big.....

Shotgun next time

Yep, til you're at work and they tear into your wife's arm for no reason.

Not sure if you've been around a Pitt in "berserk" mode. Send a few of them as catch dogs in action while chasing hogs with dogs. Not much will deflect a Pitt with blood in his eyes. I've seen them bite off 2" thick tree branches in their attempt to get at a hog. 5 minutes later they are meek & mild. Too much Jekyll & Hyde for me to trust them.

Apologies if my analogy was a little too loose for your liking. But I will have you know I am as staunch a believer in the 2nd amend. as anyone and a quick search on these forums of my comments on the subject bear this out.

There's a huge difference between a dog that goes bang and pops someone and then backs out which is far and away what goes on in most cases with most breeds. The dogs that go into berserk mode at don't back away after bang have no place on earth. Neither do the ass wipe apologists for them. Tying to equate a bit with going into kill mode is rationalization at it's worst. You can go to a field trail and walk through a string of setters chained to a truck. I doubt if even you would be stupid enough to try that with a string of pits.

It's not a matter of courage or steadfastness. The damn dogs just go into kill mode without regard to what it is they're killing or if there is any reason to do so. I have seen many many instances of bird dogs willing to kill themselves to do what they're bred to do. Nor is it a matter of intelligence since a pit doesn't bother to figure out what it's killing or if there's a threat requiring that response, that's just another rationalization by their ass wipe defender/apologists. Neither a matter of defense of home/property, go ask a chessie some time if you can have something of his. You will likely get bang, but he isn't going to kill you once he's convinced you it's not yours.

In short, there's no place for a dog that cannot be trusted. Just like there's no place for ass wipes who think they're good for something.

I don't trust the way pits are wired. If they were a car, they'd be under recall.

Potential burglars see a pit, rottie, or doberman looking through the window, and the burglar wraps a jacket around his left arm, then picks up a 2 foot piece of 1 1/4 inch steel pipe with his right hand. The altercation is over in less than 2 seconds with very little noise.

As told by a convicted burglar to a neighborhood watch group. Not a pleasant thought, just the way it is.

The ones he did not like were the yappy little ankle biters which hide under the bed and raise holy hell.

Pitbulls were bred for fighting, which they do very well, and most, not all, owners of pitbulls are idiots with low self esteem. I bet the owners of the dogs in this thread are drug riddled idiots.

Fused grenades rolling around on your deck, Mister.
GOOD dogs do not require that kind of treatment,....

GTC

That's an old Mossad trick. Hawkeye should know better.

Not according to burglars themselves. Studies have been conducted where convicted burglars in prison are asked to rank dogs according to breed that would cause them to skip a house over. Pitbulls rate at the top. Dobermans aren't far behind.

SBTCO,



You need to check out the word apologist. I don't think that word means what you think it does.