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No broken Talley pics, but I have a series of photos of a Nosler bullet box that kicked my ass.....

I have not had any problems.

I've broken 2 sets out of about 6 sets owned. 1 split vertically through the base and 1 broken ring cap. I've gone back to dual dovetails.

Come on dude. That is the only way to prove you're badass. [bleep] tough on the Milford, ya know?

I've had a few break and seen first hand a few more. I still have a few sets, but they make me nervous.

Over-tightening is the main cause of Talley failures. If a ring cap is cracked, it only got that way by one method.

Why anyone would use these crappy rings is beyond me. If they were the only choice out there I could see it, but they aren't. There are tons of rings that are much better on the market today.

Mine cracked at the mounting area, near the receiver, although the anecdotal reports of failures on the interwbz seems to point towards more cap failures.

I did a hardness test and the material measured within the 7000-series as Talley advertises.

Might be hard to tell in the pic, but there is a crack that goes from the thru-hole to the face closest to the camera.

That's a fu cking classic right there...

As a side note...

If anyone has a set of Talleys that have failed, I'd be happy to do a hardness test on them if you're interested. Please send a PM.

JeffO, sorry to sidetrack.

Jason

That's exactly where my second broken set cracked.

I mount a lot of scopes. I am a dealer for Talley and like to use them on everything that isn't getting a rail. Talley makes nice picatinny rails too. In 8 years dealing them not one set has ever come back. Every once in awhile I will order the wrong set and they make it right far beyond my expectations every time. I do wish they could make their lightweights in a titanium version for guys that are hard on their rifles.

My sons Accumark has Talleys on it holding a VXIII 6.5-20x40 EFR target scope. One day he was packing it slung over his shoulder and the sling mount came open and the rifle fell straight back landing right on top of the target knob in really hard packed gravel. I figured the scope would be broke in half. It smashed the turret cover but it didn't hurt the rings or the scope. Zero was spot on. 10 years later he is still using the whole setup.

At work we see far more broken, rounded out screws and stripped receiver holes than broken Talley's. Over tightened scope mounts are far and away the most common mistake I see on peoples rifles. That alone completely jacks up the tracking and ability to hold zero in some scopes by distorting the tube right where the erector pivot is located. If you are mounting your own scopes I can't stress enough the importance of a good inch pound torque wrench. Every set of rings should also be checked with a lapping bar for alignment.

Define "better" here.

It has been discussed before:

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/9338029/1

EVERYONE that I know/shoot/hunt with has broken at least (1) set of LW's. Multiple,have failed multiple and upon different receivers and I'm one of "them".

I personally have owned/shot/got 50+ sets of LW's and my "problem" is,I shoot and spend more time flogging upon same,than anyone else "knows". Hint.

A not so fhuqking curious "consensus" here,is them who are the most couchbound,trumpet and fabricate the most excuses for LW failures. NONE of them turn a fhuqking lick,wear out barrels under field conditions or wear out boots. Hint.

Now LW's have been very good to me,given their none too "secreted" limitations(weight),which just "happens" to be predicated upon their design. The Theory is there,but their execution do not meet the perils of REAL Application. Metallurgy has run the gamut,for a multitude of reasons,none of which is comfortin' when YOUR schit pukes in the field. Hint.

When I weigh in extrapolation the 100's of 1000's of rounds suffered ala LW's in my mitts and the conditions/atmospherics they've been subjected to,I'll grant that SOMETHING is gonna puke over time. The fhuqking constant(s) that plague my actual USE and those of others who actually USE rifles,is that failures by and large have been on modest weight rifles,of modest or lesser recoil values. The inertia summoned is exceedingly modest in comparison to many platforms I gun,but the failure rate is skyrocketed in glaring comparison.

LW's do not handle wear/tear worth a fhuqk,in the longterm. They can/will/do puke and I could give a fhuqk less about a Safe Queen,taking exception to that glaring obvious. For folks that run/gun up/down mountains,schlep streams and fend a new thing called "weather".there will simply come a time,when LW's WILL fhuqk you and puke unsuspectingly.

Feel free to "torque" that constant fact. Hint. Laffin'!

In recent years(last 3) their Puketitude has gone through the fhuqking roof and all of us who gave them a chance,turned tail and RAN away. Sad,but true.

It's a fhuqking hoot here,reading about the "horror stories" folks regale in,on how a rifle slipped off a shoulder or managed it's first scratch. Hint. Laffin'!

As rifles go,the most consistent inconsistency I've seen through the years and via 100's of rifles/scopes/chamberings that I've owned,is that optics and their mounting systems reliably puke before anything/everything else. Read that again. Now one more time.

I've defaulted back to schit that I've never broken,or seen broke in the firsthand and that is DD's. Though in fairness,they weigh 100% more than LW's,though I can suffer the extry 2 ounces of weight for a 100% warm/fuzzy. Hint.(grin)

Perhaps I had GREAT lots of LW's to start with,which baited the hook,then they got "bad"?!? Fhuqk I don't know. What I do KNOW,is that their trust has been broken and will never again be revisited,due inopportune failures less obvious explanation.

It was a good ride...but that party is OVER.

Hint.

Agreed, I havent had DDs go TU on me yet.

I got several sets, Mark V ulw 300 Roy, Mark V fibermark 340 Roy, lotsa lil calibers, nary a hiccup....

As usual, Big Boxer nailed it. In lieu of DDs, I have gone with Burris low profile two piece steel picatinny base with seekins aluminum picatinny rings.

Judman,



Haven't you heard or read you get what you pay for?

After spending $1,600 on a Pierce titanium and $1,350 for a VX-6, and $520 for a carbon stock, and $600 for a Christensen carbon barrel and $225 for a Terminator 3 brake and a few hundred for the 'smith to put it together, I went on the cheap and used Talley light weights. I used the rifle on several hunts last year, which was its first year, and like you didn't have a problem.

What I will say is after two $225 Timney triggers I switched to another brand.