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Of course. But that's an entirely different question than the OP.

Exactly. Aside from negative influence on other employees, costly sabotage isn't unheard of, and is not something companies want to risk.

Paul

I haven't quit a job in over 13 years now, but when I did, I put in a two week notice and left on good terms, with open invites to come back. That being said, if I had an A-hole boss and knew I had 0 chance of getting a decent reference, I wouldn't hesitate to walk with no notice. I'd rather never burn my bridges like that though, so I just hope it never has to happen like that. I have heard of people being let go as soon as they turned in their notice. My wife's uncle worked in the computer programming industry and has seen many times where an exiting employee was immediate escorted to his desk to get his personal items and escorted off the premises.

I have seen the same happen quite frequently

With two exceptions, I've always given 2 weeks or more. One time I actually gave one year's notice. The other, I resigned at 11 am, effective at 5pm. The reason for this was, I knew the CEO would have to let me go after I presented him with a significant dilemma. If I remained as his Director of Security (it was an armed proprietary security force), I would have to report a major infraction to the state board concerning his son. He refused to allow me to, and for liability purposes, I had to both make the report and resign my position. Both of which I did, in writing.

Even in this case, my resignation letter informed him that I would be glad to assist my successor in understanding the the programs in place, the state regulations, the filling system and documentation. He took me up on it and we parted mostly amicably.

I've done different gigs over the last 40 years or so.

Worked for one company that announced big future plans and a solid financial footing on Tuesday, only to announce that same Friday they were insolvent and closing shop. Fully funded pensions were missing, severance pay required by law was unavailable, and contractual insurance premiums hadn't been paid for a year. This company processed all of their insurance claims in-house and said that non-payment of claims was just a paperwork back-log. They lied.
Pension claims for this employer are being handled by the federally funded and managed PBGC.gov.
Thank you tax-payers...

Just 2 years ago I signed on with a new job. Hourly are treated more than well. Many have left to pursue other employment, only to return when their situation or needs changed.
Have seen 2 lower management guys walked out the door on the day they gave 2 weeks notice. They were leaving to go work for a competitor. And I do believe they were both paid for those 2 weeks.

In between those 2 employers I worked the heavy construction (powerhouse) trades for 13 years. Made a ton of friends. Worked for some interesting companies. Work was sporadic and seasonal, but paid very well. When they needed you, they needed you tomorrow, and sometimes a thousand or more miles away. Hire in day became an anticipated meeting of friends. As the jobs wound down, the lay-offs came a few guys at a time. Foreman showed up, while you were on the job, with a check and a handshake. It was never announced but the never unexpected, as the work load evaporated.
Good times...

Yes, but some members are making blanket statements, questioning the integrity of folks under any circumstances. The fact is, it depends. It shouldn't be that way, but it is.

I worked armed security also, and when you gave notice, you were let go on the spot! your former coworkers or buddies marched you to your locker and then out the front gate! another time working at a Steel Mill, a forman over heard me tell some buddies I was going to buy a new snowmobile, as we left to our positions, for the shift, the foreman called me into his office, he asked me to keep quite about what he was going to tell me, as he could lose his job if it got out! he said a bunch of us were getting laid off at the end of the week and would be off for a long time if not for ever, and I was one of them with less than 2 years there. I thanked him didnt get the snowgo, as we walked passed the gate that friday evening we had a layoff slip , on our time cards. was laid off for 5-6 months.

No always,but severance pay is usually in lieu of notice.

And there it is. In todays world it seems not many know what this is.

That's called "Common Sense" another hard won concept.

The company has already informed you it's no big deal, come or don't come it's up to you.

Corporations have to give 3 months notice to the employees they are laying off. When you quit with 2 weeks notice and they escort you out the door they generally pay you for 2 weeks and let you stay at home.

my experience has been if the company does right by the employees who have left before you, you'll do right by them

At my place, it depends on the working relationship you have with the employee.

I've seen instances where they've told the employee who should have been let go immediately that he had 6 months to find another job because he was a good employee who was just in a bad situation. His lack of employment was more on the company than him.

and I've seen instances where the employee gave 2 weeks notice and the company felt they'd be better served just giving him two weeks of pay without him being at the workplace - turn in your badge and security will escort you from the building kind of thing.


I do know this - its never a good day for someone if you show up and 2 extra security guards are waiting in the lobby.

I can remember one guy we were legitimately concerned a known hothead would retaliate once he found out he was being let go. Fortunately he left without incident.

You guys that can work for companies and deal with the BS politics of such employ are much better men than me!

I gave two months notice of my retirement and they were not happy.

I gave 10 months for mine....and they were not thrilled.

I was in management all my 39 years of work post college career. I the unfortunate task to lay people off at times. I always gave two or more weeks notice.
However, there seemed to be an increase in "back injuries" between layoff notice and actual layoff. That allowed a few slugs to ride work comp while they were laid off.
Its a two way street, management and non management need to respect the system and each other.

I always give 2 weeks. Never had the company determine it was best I not stay but I've seen it happen to others. Particularly if they were going to a competitor.

I have ZERO issues with the company stating "well, we appreciate it but we'd rather have it end right now/here" it makes sense from a "what's best for the company" perspective and because I've never seen someone's new company basically say you can't come to work for us early.

You wanted out, they wanted you in - typically works out ok. Unless it's a situation where you are part of a large training class like a call center or something. But I've never worked those jobs.

Layoffs - all I've seen have had people given ample warning and even up to 90 days to find another position within the company if they so choose.

The Hospital Organization I worked for you had to signed an agreement that you could be terminated at any time without being given a reason.

I think about that a lot now. Farming is hard work I'm sure. Homesteading is a lot of work, I'm sure. But I wonder if they aren't more rewarding than corporate life.

Even if you are self employed, the customers are your boss. I've always excelled at customer service, but in my industry it's getting harder. It's just the type of people that are drawn to my industry that make it harder than in the past. I spent many years at corporate and am now in the field, so I don't "witness" the day to day BS and it's easier to take, but still.

I just wonder sometimes...