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Failed logic You only have 2 choices and not voting isn't one of them You are just letting someone else pick your poison ,but drink you will regardless
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Campfire 'Bwana
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He was for total amnesty? As to the wrong country, let's just agree to disagree. With you 100 % on the nation building-taking their oil deal..
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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He was for total amnesty? ...... Yes. And he tried 2 different times to push it thru. Some of us won't forget or forgive. Bush Amnesty Plan Raises Immigration Concerns Published January 08, 2004 FoxNews.com Facebook21 Twitter0 Email Print
The massive new immigration initiative unveiled by the White House has Democrats and ethnic identity organizations accusing Republicans of election-year pandering, and has the Republican base wondering whether George W. Bush and the Republican Party has sold them out.
The initiative, which draws heavily on legislation already introduced in Congress by three Arizona Republicans, Sen. John McCain and Rep. Jeff Flake and Rep. Jim Kolbe, has two central components. It would provide a mechanism by which some U.S. businesses would be able to import an unlimited number of low-wage foreign workers, and it would allow most of the roughly 10 million illegal aliens already in the United States a means by which they (and their extended families) would be able to remain legally -- and permanently -- in the United States.
Advocates of strong enforcement of U.S. immigration laws charge that the new Bush plan is really a massive new amnesty for illegal aliens, in spite of repeated Bush administration assurances to the contrary. The administration, and the Republican sponsors of the parallel McCain-Kolbe-Flake plan (search) on Capitol Hill, claim that their plans are not really amnesties because they require illegal aliens to pay a small fee and wait a short time before they can receive their legal permanent status.
However, critics argue that any plan that allows, as the new Bush plan does, illegal aliens to remain legally and permanently in the United States without having to return to their home countries and apply to enter the United States legally like everyone else, is, in fact, an amnesty. http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/01/08/bush-amnesty-plan-raises-immigration-concerns.html
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He really was a stupid sob.
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2nd go around. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 — its full name was Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007 (S. 1348) — was a bill discussed in the 110th United States Congress that would have provided legal status and a path to citizenship for the approximately 12 million illegal immigrants residing in the United States. ........ The bill was a compromise based largely on three previous failed immigration reform bills:
The Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act (S. 1033), a bill proposed in May 2005 by Senators Ted Kennedy and John McCain, sometimes referred to as the "McCain-Kennedy or McKennedy Bill." The Comprehensive Enforcement and Immigration Reform Act of 2005 (S. 1438), a bill proposed in July 2005 by Senators John Cornyn and Jon Kyl, sometimes referred to as the "Cornyn-Kyl Bill." The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 (S. 2611), sponsored by Senator Arlen Specter, which was passed in the Senate in May 2006 but never passed in the House.
The bill's sole sponsor in the Senate was Majority Leader Harry Reid, though it was crafted in large part as a result of efforts by Senators Kennedy, McCain and Kyl, along with Senator Lindsey Graham, and input from President George W. Bush, who strongly supported the bill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Immigration_Reform_Act_of_2007
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I was totally against that plan. Thankfully, it died on the vine. That said, I'm still waiting for a workable resolution to the issue, but to your original hypothesis, one really can't prove a negative and what I portend remains factual
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Campfire Kahuna
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Rubio's not my guy, but there's no way Trump can beat him. Immigration is just not that important to most people. I realize it's very important to some, but not most. That's a fact that can't be ignored.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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We sees things differently.
Doesn't make me like you any more or less because we don't agree on politics. In fact if we ever got together I'm quite certain the last thing we'd ever talk about would be politics.
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That's ok, but my position on the no vote is not an opinion but a factual statement.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Immigration is just not that important to most people. Maybe where you live, Lt. Not in my hood. It's P1 for a lot of these Spaneesh here. Many of them couldn't care less about the big picture. Hell, they don't even want to know what the big picture is.
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Immigration is just not that important to most people. Maybe where you live, Lt. Not in my hood. It's P1 for a lot of these Spaneesh here. Many of them couldn't care less about the big picture. Hell, they don't even want to know what the big picture is. I'm sure the importance of the immigration issue varies from area to area. It's important to me because I believe that unrestricted immigration will drive a lot of other negative changes to our country. But most recent polls show it near the bottom of the list with Republican primary voters.
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