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We give the average voter way too much credit. No one who posts in political threads at the Campfire is even close to "average". The average voter is lost after the first sentence. Trump has that figured out. What we think is shallow, is, and by design.

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I missed the first part of the debate; however, in the second half of it Rubio held his own quite well.

My man Cruz had a very good night! Jeb and Kas need to leave the race.


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Originally Posted by byc
Actually, even Jeb did okay. BUT he simply cannot articulate what he wants to say. Always looks like someone caught up in a lie. Definitely the ultimate deer in headlights.

I continue to have an enormous respect for Doctor Carson.

Still very much undecided here.



I agree with you, I greatly respect Ben Carson!


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Carson would be a valuable asset in a republican administration in implementing the huge downsizing of the CDC and NIH.


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It will be interesting to see the order of the candidates after Trump in NH.


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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
Carson would be a valuable asset in a republican administration in implementing the huge downsizing of the CDC and NIH.


Big time. The man is even smarter than he shows. Too bad he didn't run in 2008.

Just very respectful and grounded.


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Cruz won the debate hands down IMO.


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Immutable rules:

1) "Winner" of debate will follow nationwide polling numbers;

2) Results of NH will be whatever they are;

3) RNC is *still* lettin Demorat Fn states select, or at least winnow, our choices for nominee.

IDGAS about *history*: If a Fn state went blue in the last election, the MFers go Fing LAST in the primary selection process.

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Trump leads 30 to only 16 for the nomination as of right now.

Poll - Republican nomination.


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I lost respect for Carson when he didn't take responsibility for his own actions.


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Of course Trump is proclaiming himself the winner,but when doesn't he.
Jeb actually bested him on the eminent domain exchange


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Originally Posted by Ringman
I lost respect for Carson when he didn't take responsibility for his own actions.


Do tell please?


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It was Carsons staff that reported him not going on to NH and returning to Florida to CNN


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Damn, I just came in an hour ago for dinner (killer ham and beans in the slow cooker) after spending most of the day wrenching on my and my son's car and handloading for the hog hunt. Oh, and a gunshow this AM.


So you arrived just in time to hear the most important question of the night. grin Who wins the Superbowl!?



More than precisely...


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He is the guy who told his guy he was leaving. His guy told CNN. CNN reported it. Cruz heard and passed the information to his people.


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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Of course Trump is proclaiming himself the winner,but when doesn't he.
Jeb actually bested him on the eminent domain exchange


Trump will probably maintain his thirty something percent until he meets Rubio with his sixty something. I'm still holding out for people to do the right thing for the country and vote for Cruz. Call it a flaw, but I have more faith in people than they probably deserve.


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Originally Posted by Ringman
He is the guy who told his guy he was leaving. His guy told CNN. CNN reported it. Cruz heard and passed the information to his people.



Leaving what? The race or simply Iowa to FL for a rest and who knows what else?

I really fail to see where Carson did anything wrong. He showed up in NH right?


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Originally Posted by dave7mm
Last time Iowa voted for santa-stor-chit.
Really?
Shows how much they count for anything...
Looks like all you do is listen to FOX news and play jimmy carter videos.
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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
It was Carsons staff that reported him not going on to NH and returning to Florida to CNN


But did Carson or his staff actually say Carson was dropping out??


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Originally Posted by byc
Originally Posted by Ringman
He is the guy who told his guy he was leaving. His guy told CNN. CNN reported it. Cruz heard and passed the information to his people.



Leaving what? The race or simply Iowa to FL for a rest and who knows what else?

I really fail to see where Carson did anything wrong. He showed up in NH right?


He didn't do anything "wrong". He (or his) made a mistake by simply telling a CNN reporter that he was going home, skipping Iowa and would going to a Prayer meeting (or something) in Washington later in the week. They quickly amended it to add that he wasn't dropping out, but it was too late. It had already spread. Rubio's camp was doing the exact same thing but wasn't the one that Carson's people heard.


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