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Trump has Carters "endorsement". Cruz has Ringmans.

Both damaging.

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Last thing "this"country needs is another politician running it.


True, but they're the only ones stupid enough to want the job.



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Net impact of the debate:

- Trump under performs his double digit lead
- Steam taken away from Rubio's Iowa bounce
- Cruz minimizes impact of Carson fiasco
- Everyone else over performs polls

Unfortunately, I think the weak links are going to do better and stick around longer.

Gilmore, the dark horse, comes out unscathed.

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We give the average voter way too much credit. No one who posts in political threads at the Campfire is even close to "average". The average voter is lost after the first sentence. Trump has that figured out. What we think is shallow, is, and by design.


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Cruz did better for me tonight.
He had a great story about his sister and his answers were much more presidential.

I think that he took responsibility for his campaign manager who is a bit of a floorflusher.

He did better than any debate thus far.

However, I feel that Trump did something that was damaging to Cruz and Rubio. He lays out the dialogue of what is going on the debates. Trump basically controls the tempo. He has done this a couple of times stealing the narrative from the other candidates and the moderators. These moderators were really underpowered. Mary Hamm is great but she didn't come out that strong.

Cruz or Trump or Rubio needs to build upon the importance of the next POTUS selecting two or three SCOTUS judges. Nobody has said this but it is Trump's Achilles Heel.

Rubio and Jeb both look ill prepared to be chief executive.

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Trump Triumphant

A strong night for the governors, but a good night for the frontrunner.

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Feb 06, 2016 By Jonathan V. Last

The big media story from the debate will be Marco Rubio’s confrontation with Chris Christie. But the larger picture might be about how well Donald Trump did.

Trump was relatively reserved. He wasn't bombastic. Or erratic. He was—by Trumpian standards—presidential? Okay, let's not get crazy. Trump wasn't able to stay in check for the full three hours—he couldn't help himself from lashing out at Cruz in his closing statement. And where candidates often lash out at the media when they get in trouble in a debate, Trump attacked the audience. The move was classic pro-wrestling—like Vince McMahon baiting the crowd. And it was so crazy that it kind of worked.

But here's the thing: Trump had, easily, his worst moment in any of the debates so far. Jeb Bush gutted him on eminent domain. Trump has never lost an exchange so decisively. Yet Trump wound up skating past that defeat.

Partly it was the dynamics of the debate that favored Trump. Aside from eminent domain, Bush focused on Rubio and Christie looked like he was on a kamikaze mission to destroy the Florida senator. Nobody else even glanced Trump's way.

And in spots, Trump was pretty good. His full-throated law-and-order defense of the police is likely to play well with Republican voters. When he talked about James Foley he—again, by Trumpian standards—was somber and serious.

Yet what really made Trump the winner is this: He entered the debate with a commanding lead in the New Hampshire polls and his only worry was a surging Rubio. Rubio got stopped cold—but by a guy who's polling at 5 percent here. The second-place slot got more muddled by the debate, not less. And that's good news for the front-runner.

The net effect of tonight's debate will probably be to preserve—or even extend—Trump's position on Tuesday night.


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I didn't watch it, but from what was said on the 'net, Rubio was pretty much the loser and Cruz was thought to have not done well. Trump seemed to have done slightly well with Jeb! surprisingly doing better than he has before and most thinking Krispy made points off of Rubio.

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And it comes from The Weekly Standard, a up until now, anti-Trump GOPe NRO ugly, red headed stepdaughter.


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Originally Posted by isaac
And it comes from The Weekly Standard, a up until now, anti-Trump GOPe NRO ugly, red headed stepdaughter.
Most are going to pick their own guy. The point here is that Trump at least stayed steady whereas his two chief competitors seemed to have faltered.

Trump is a gambler and he gambled big that staying out of the last debate was the thing to do. He seems to have come up bupkus on that one, but I doubt he lost any sleep over it. Trump is so effing rich that he pays guys to lose sleep for him.

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I think all these guys would do better than what we have had the last 7 years. I think Hildabeast would of been a better president than Obummer too. But you stick these guys on the stage together and Trump looks like the only one that can get the job done.

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Originally Posted by MadDog4298
I think all these guys would do better than what we have had the last 7 years. I think Hildabeast would of been a better president than Obummer too. But you stick these guys on the stage together and Trump looks like the only one that can get the job done.

That became pretty clear last night with Trumps YUGE overall win.
Fatazz took down rubio and showed him to be raghead like in inexperience.rubio needs to go be a governor somewhere for 12 years.Might be ready for the bigshow after that, but I dought it..
Cruz.
As hard as Trump is to listen to sometimes.
The cuban for me, is always much worse.
The high handed doogooder/evangelical/preaching delivery,in a almost raghead like style, is like listening to fingernails on a chalkboard...
The rest of the crowd are toast and dont matter.


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The less conservative a candidate is, the less likely they are to win the general election and worse they will be for the country. Period.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
The less conservative a candidate is, the less likely they are to win the general election and worse they will be for the country. Period.

I cant tell if thats from the secesh playbook of epic fail.
Or you have listened to MSLSD and jimmy carter so much they have programmed you to want kun-ton or the commie to win.

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
The less conservative a candidate is, the less likely they are to win the general election and worse they will be for the country. Period.

I cant tell if thats from the secesh playbook of epic fail.
Or you have listened to MSLSD and jimmy carter so much they have programmed you to want kun-ton or the commie to win.

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No it's the results of the last two elections...unlike RINO's and Dems. conservatives don't tend to unite behind mealy mouthed candidates...McCain & Romneys penchant for giving reach arounds didn't inspire much confidence that they were that much different than the clown that now resides at 1600...

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
The less conservative a candidate is, the less likely they are to win the general election and worse they will be for the country. Period.

I cant tell if thats from the secesh playbook of epic fail.
Or you have listened to MSLSD and jimmy carter so much they have programmed you to want kun-ton or the commie to win.

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Dood...you were Romney's biggest cheerleader. How did that work out? For that matter, when did running a kinda-liberal against a liberal EVER work out for republicans? People like you were the inspiration for that Charlie Brown football thingee.


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The less conservative a candidate is, the less likely they are to win the general election and worse they will be for the country. Period.


This shouldn't be profound, but it is. How do the Republicans miss it?


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Originally Posted by isaac
...Jeb Bush gutted him on eminent domain...


Jeb couldn't gut a sunfish.

Regarding Trump missing 1 debate, he won by avoiding a stacked deck that might have hurt him much worse than simply not attending.


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Not my quote, for the record.

Trump was exactly right on Eminent Domain and he never took a house from an old lady,not that those prone to silly gossip won't buy into it, hook, line and sinker, anyways.

If not in the top 3-4,I'll be shocked if Jeb's supporters keep funding him through SC.


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Originally Posted by isaac


If not in the top 3-4,I'll be shocked if Jeb's supporters keep funding him through SC.


They're already cutting their losses and moving to Rubio.


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After last night, they might think twice.



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