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I've killed a moose with a 220 CL in .30-06. A pronghorn with a 150 RN as well as a whitetail doe. A buck with a 180 CL RN in .30-06. I've killed a lot more with flat points though.

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i have a box of 160 grain sierra rn 6.5 id sell if anyone is interested


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Originally Posted by Savage_99
Here is the 200 gr Silvertip 358 Winchester RN that I have taken the most deer with.

All have been my handloads.

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My family took a lot of white tail with 30-30 150 gr. Winchester factory loaded silvertips...most of them one shot kills.

Latter on, I realized those deer were not dead enough. So, I bought a 30-06. The deer I shoot now are much deader.

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Barely longer than a 168gr Nosler match.
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I'm not particularly wedded to RNSP bullets, but whenever I've used them they've worked fine. They seem to be ideally suited for modest velocity, for use at modest distances, and they seem to kill game perfectly well, which is of course the important thing really. I particularly like the 286 gn Woodleigh RNSP in my 9.3x74R - I prefer it over the PP version in fact - and it seems to do a good job for game up to buffalo.

I've also used the 220 gn Remington CorLokt in .30/06 on a bunch of big pigs, and it bowled them over in fine style, one after another, though admittedly I still prefer Winchester's 150 gn Power Point on pigs and deer, for the additional reach it gives. Others I've used include Prvi Partizan's 139 gn 7x57R, Hornady's 174 gn RNSP in .303, and various RN (and FN) bullets in .30/30 and .45/70. All have done a good job killing deer and pigs.

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Sleek bullets will kill at close range, as well as long.

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Originally Posted by johnw
I think ever body oughtta shoot what they like to. Why a body would choose a RN bullet is any body's guess.
The logic plumb evades me.


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Originally Posted by jeff270
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two diameter 220gr .308
Barely longer than a 168gr Nosler match.
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Details? Those look really interesting. Where, what, etc?


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Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Sleek bullets will kill at close range, as well as long.


It mightn't be that simple. For example, the "sleek" bullet might need a bit more velocity to do its best work. A case in point is the Woodleighs I mentioned, pictured here:

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Side by side, on several dozen head of game (pigs and buffalo) it was apparent that the sleeker PP wasn't expanding well unless it met a lot of resistance. The RN would open up and kill pigs well, while also performing well on buffalo, while the PP would zip through a pig and not do nearly so good a job. The PP might have done a good deal better if driven faster, but at the velocities in question (MV about 2400 fps, shots under about 100 yards) the RNSP definitely had an edge.

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Dan -

I only shoot rifles/cartridges that are already skooting.

So..

Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Sleek bullets will kill at close range, as well as long.


I've been handloading since 1975--to date. I've never seen any situation or circumstance where RN bullets would have been an advantage.

Now I do understand where Dangerous Game is concerned RN -FMJ are preferred or required. I haven't seen any pachyderm tracks in areas I've hunted.

Other than D G, round nose bullets offer no advantage and AFAIC (as far as I'm concerned) are only a DISadvantage.

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Originally Posted by jwall
Dan -

I only shoot rifles/cartridges that are already skooting.


...and therefore no great surprise you don't have much use for RNSP bullets. As I said:

Originally Posted by dan_oz
They seem to be ideally suited for modest velocity, for use at modest distances,


Personally, I have some rifles which send bullets downrange fast, and some which don't. Sometimes I want to be able to reach out. Sometimes I don't need to. Horses for courses.


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Yes I understood AND I'm glad you understand.

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Originally Posted by jwall
Dan -

I only shoot rifles/cartridges that are already skooting.

So..

Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Sleek bullets will kill at close range, as well as long.


I've been handloading since 1975--to date. I've never seen any situation or circumstance where RN bullets would have been an advantage.

Now I do understand where Dangerous Game is concerned RN -FMJ are preferred or required. I haven't seen any pachyderm tracks in areas I've hunted.

Other than D G, round nose bullets offer no advantage and AFAIC (as far as I'm concerned) are only a DISadvantage.

Jerry


In that case, why are you posting in this thread? Nobody's trying to convince you. Some people have use for RN bullets. We get that you dont, I think we can all move past that now.

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I like and use roundnose bullets in several applications. If we accept that the vast majority of game is killed at under 300 yards and much of that at less than 200, the round nose in practical application gives up little to any other style of bullet. I currently load them in;

256 Mannlicher
25 Remington
6mmx222
30-40 Krag
300 H&H
35 Whelen
9.3x57
401 WSL
400 Whelen
10.75x57

So far I've taken game with them in the 30-40, 300 H&H, 30-06, 308, and 400 Whelen and I've taken game from just a few yards to just a few yards over 300 and haven't ever felt handicapped. I'm not saying they're any better than spitzers but they often get an undeserved bad rap.


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Originally Posted by johnw
Are you saying that agonizing over a particular bullet weight is logical?


At least as logical as a lot of stuff we agonize over here.


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the rn sierra 6.5 bullets i offered are spoken for


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Originally Posted by moosemike
I think the 6.5 160 grain round nose is the coolest looking bullet I've seen. I'd love to get something that I could use it in.


I always thought the 7X57 175 grain solids that Bell used on elephants looked really lethal. Long and lean --- and mean!

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I have a box of 129 gr. 6.5 Hornady RN if any one is interested. Just pm me.

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Originally Posted by Yondering
Originally Posted by jwall

Other than D G, round nose bullets offer no advantage and AFAIC (as far as I'm concerned) are only a DISadvantage.
Jerry


In that case, why are you posting in this thread? Nobody's trying to convince you. Some people have use for RN bullets. We get that you dont, I think we can all move past that now.


yondering - I am being VERY polite.

I have the same privilege as you to post on ANY Thread I want to.

WE don't need anyone's permission.

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Originally Posted by dan_oz
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Sleek bullets will kill at closes range, as well as long.


It mightn't be that simple. For example, the "sleek" bullet might need a bit more velocity to do its best work. A case in point is the Woodleighs I mentioned, pictured here:

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Side by side,


Neither of those bullets are sleek...

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