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I had this same mission a couple years ago and settled upon the 168 gr NBT over a near-max charge of Hunter.
They retain weight like a partition and a great BC.
Great stuff in my book.
This thread should help ya:
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/7219652/30_cal_bullet_test,_cow_femurs
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efw, Some good reading.
Do you know if the 165 BT is the same construction as the 168?
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150gr TTSX @ 3040 180gr Accubond @ 2750
My two favorite -06 killers. Currently into the 150gr TTSX.
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My choice has been the 150 e-tip if the rifle will shoot it well and consistently (my Tikka will, others haven't done as well). If the e-tip doesn't shoot as well as you'd like, the 150 TTSX almost always will. With these bullets I've not seen any reason to go heavier, and for me that includes moose and grizzlies. The 150s will shoot a little flatter, with a little less recoil, and typically penetrate -at least as well, if not better- than any of the cup-and-core options. This was the work of a 150 e-tip at 30 yards.
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180, then a 165/68, but I ain't picky - anything that shoots and performs well. Currently using 150 for caribou out to 500 yards. , but they work on moose too.
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180 Partitions with 180 Accubonds on deck - whichever one is more accurate. If you get bored, try the same in the 200's.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
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I agree w/Bobin NH! Smokin nice beat!
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When I first got started reloading, I wanted to use 180 Partitions in my 30-06 BAR but didn't have any luck accuracy wise. I loaded up some 150 SSTs, got 1 inch groups and called it good. Screwed up and got a chrono. Found out I'm only getting 2775fps so I'm going to do a little more work on it soon. Gonna give those Partitions another try too. I may not have have ever gotten them up to a speed where they needed to be in order to be accurate.
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Thanks on the bear. Stalked into a couple day old moose kill and caught him carrying off the moose jaw in the foreground. He apparently figured something was up, paused and faced me. Fortunately the something was probably my safety coming off. Dropped where he stood, though I shot him a couple more times until he stopped moving. 30 yards is probably an over estimate.
Tried to do the same this year on my moose kill. A bear had buried the carcass, but I didn't find him this time. Stalking though the brush when you know a big bear is there somewhere, and maybe not too happy you're messing with "his" kill is a good way to get the adrenaline flowing.
I'm lucky as hell to be able to walk out my front door or hop on the 4-wheeler and hunt like this...
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Gorgeous bear -- BIG head.
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Beautiful bear! Congrats on him.
Ant details on the 150 ET as far as bones struck or overall internal damage?
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Unfortunately I didn't have time to check inside for bullet performance. It was getting late and it was all I could do to get him skinned out.
I did shoot a black bear this year from above at about 350 yards with the 150 e-tip. The shot passed through the back and all but took off a rear leg other than a little bit of hide left. After using this bullet for the last three years, I can't think of much that it won't break.
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I've been shooting the 200 gr partition for some time now as a one and only '06 bullet I'm a still hunter though and my shots rarely exceed 200 yards anymore and I can count shots out to 300 on one hand in the past twenty years. But it will do that range and then some. And, will arrive with authority. If you have longer shots presented often or the chance of them I would go with a 165-168 BTSP style bullet I shot crop damage back in the late eighties and used 150 gr BT's and 165 gr Hornady FB interlocks. The Hornady's were fantastic. I still have a couple hundred on the shelf and my load notes. As a side note, I have only used one mono metal billet in the '06. 150 gr Barnes XLC. The funny blue ones. They were super accurate and I never recovered one. I never thought the '06 needed a mono metal bullet though for it's velocity range
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My choice has been the 150 e-tip if the rifle will shoot it well and consistently (my Tikka will, others haven't done as well). If the e-tip doesn't shoot as well as you'd like, the 150 TTSX almost always will. With these bullets I've not seen any reason to go heavier, and for me that includes moose and grizzlies. The 150s will shoot a little flatter, with a little less recoil, and typically penetrate -at least as well, if not better- than any of the cup-and-core options. This was the work of a 150 e-tip at 30 yards. I love that bear! You are blessed to bable to walk out your front door and get after it. This whole thing has me thinking about a TTSX in my .270 also. Congrats
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I have often thought about one bullet for my 30-06. Here are some loads I have worked up.
200 grains Partition 2755 fps 180 grains NAB 2850 fps 168 grains Barnes TTSX 2965 fps 150 grains Barnes TTSX 3060 fps
Gee, what is a guy to do.
They all shoot really well.
Have a great day.
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I'd be interested in your load data for the 200 and 180 grainers. You must be shooting out of a 24" barrel.
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Yes, I can't imagine a much better place to live. The scenery sure never gets old! Sorry for the slight thread hijack....
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Tried out some 165 Accubonds out of my Tikka 30-06 this afternoon. 2800 fps plus and a nice little group.
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