Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Elk Hunting Ethical or not? 1376 yard elk by a 12 year old

Depends on the hunter and the sights but in my estimation, for most somewhere around 150 or even less.

Interesting, thanks. Any idea of when that was written?

Because its legal.

Who said anyone had to honor anything. I've shot a LOT of animals without having honor or thrill of the hunt etc... involved. It was harvesting meat. Hunting if you will. Shooting if you won't.

Not that I"d do what was done personally unless I'd taken a zero shot, unless I TOTALLY was understanding the conditions... and there are some days like that.

Having shot an appx 10 inch group the other side of 1800 yards that was a 3 shot group, its very workable. First round that was not "in the group" and corrected to drop 3 more in as quickly as I could on target..... its possible.

But then most don't dedicate enough time to any of this long stuff to have a clue really as to what they are doing.

I do stand by my personal thoughts that 200 is to far for most. Or far enough, heck 100 is to far for many. Never stopped any or many of them... I still say a screwed up 100-200 yard shot has a LOT more potential to be a bad hit than a LONG shot where if you miss something, you are likely to MISS totally rahter than just be off a hair... but what would I know.

So, what is the prognosis...have we decided who is allowed to hunt yet?

random thoughts -

I wonder if they located the elk at closer range then had to move farther away in order to make the video they wanted.

Seems at odds with teaching anyone anything. Wouldn't you typically start with fundamentals, i.e., begin with the building blocks and gradually move to the fine points and skills. From the 'why' to the 'how'.

Seems like the great animal is secondary to the show. Not about the bull at all.

I have a major issue with teaching ethics. Always did.

And taught hunter ed in TX for years.

My problem is that ethics varies. And its not something thats anyones business otehr than yours.

So you don't care about legal vs illegal? Only whatever serves your platform?

BTW you might find that I'm not as opposite of your thoughts as you might assume.

From the 'why' to the 'how'.

This is the sad part of it all. There are a few among us that are always testing the limits. For fear of division among the ranks, there is always some justification for pushing those limits.

It wasn't that long ago and some computer geek was trying to sell the idea of shooting deer out of a tree stand with a computer and a mouse. Those that could stomach that philosophy are stretching that distance thing too far.

How far is too far, seems to be a question that doesn't have the perfect answer. Maybe a lazer guided missile would still be acceptable to some, where do you draw the line?

It is obvious that this video isn't about the shooting skill of this 12 year old kid, it is about the adults that are using a kid to legitimize their ambitions to make long shots look easy and foolproof.

The first shot was a complete miss, that should have ended the video, but no, they had him load up and shoot again. That kid had no more idea of shooting long range than he had of flying a jet. They just put him in the pilot's seat and handed him the controls.

I really hope this kind of stunt shooting goes away and people get enough sense to use their own skills to get close enough to make the shot or just not shoot...

The "why"? Because it's fun.

The "how"? use whatever is legal and you enjoy.

Simple as that.

To be "Legal" is not necessarily to be "Ethical".

Excellent post. Concur.

Evidently you have NO clue what ethical is.

kingston,

The "it" refers to the being outdoors in the woods or fields and hunting with the hope of killing the subject of the hunt. The kill is part of the fun. If it wasn't we would buy a license and tag for someone to go do the "dirty deed."