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This thread would die if you stopped posting on it.
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Therefore I think if you are seriously seeking the Lord all that's necessary is for you to read One and you will be reading God's Word. If you are seriously seeking God's truth you don't need the Bible at all. And if you wan a list of contradictions go find them yourself - I'm not your gofer.
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Coyote_Hunter, If you are seriously seeking God's truth you don't need the Bible at all. I agree if you are not seeking the Creator God. And if you wan a list of contradictions go find them yourself - I'm not your gofer. I didn't think you had any. That is a cute dodge you have.
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If you knew half as much as you think you do you would know the four gospels were NOT all written by Jesus' apostles.
And you would know the Bible ifs rife with self-contradiction.
And you would know that, yes, many books were arbitrarily left out of the Bible because they didn't promote the PC version.
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Coyote_Hunter, If you knew half as much as you think you do you would know the four gospels were NOT all written by Jesus' apostles.
And you would know the Bible ifs rife with self-contradiction.
And you would know that, yes, many books were arbitrarily left out of the Bible because they didn't promote the PC version. Aren't we a little off topic for this thread? I realize Luke was not an apostle. The rest sounds like a lot ignorant speculation. But I am being just like you here. Maybe you would give me some documentation about some of your assertions, please. You know, like a couple contradictions. You didn't answer my question about what's wrong with contradictions. Do you have an answer?
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The conclusion is??? Let's vote. Isn't that the democratic way.
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kingston,
This thread would die if you stopped posting on it. I'm not necessarily interested in the thread dieing, but it would be nice if it got back on topic.
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I really don't get the "ethics have nothing to do with hunting because I'm a Christian" thing.
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I really don't get the "ethics have nothing to do with hunting because I'm a Christian" thing. Me neither. Even more perplexing is how we go from shooting elk at long range, to a theology tutorial, in 35 pages......talk about diversion and disconnect!
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I agree, it's time to get back on topic. So, is it ethical to kill unicorns with a .270?
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It's ethical to kill unicorns with anything that will kill a unicorn. I've been hunting them unsuccessfully for 29 years. I haven't tried long range unicorn hunting yet. Maybe that's the answer.
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I guess I just figured all my "My Little Pony" hunting experience would translate. Boy, was I wrong. They really are two entirely different species. It's crazy, because I always remember seeing them together when I was a kid.
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toad, I really don't get the "ethics have nothing to do with hunting because I'm a Christian" thing. BobinNH, Originally Posted By toad I really don't get the "ethics have nothing to do with hunting because I'm a Christian" thing.
Me neither.
Even more perplexing is how we go from shooting elk at long range, to a theology tutorial, in 35 pages......talk about diversion and disconnect! I agree with both of you the way toad used the quote. I couldn't find the exact quote toad used in order to correct the context. My argument here is ethics is a personal thing. Some here think anything over 300 yards is unethical. Others draw the line at 500 yards. I am sure there are some here who believe bow hunters wound many more animals that rifle hunters and would like to stop them. I want the pontificators to quit acting like Democrats who, because they dislike something, don't want anyone else doing it.
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I want the pontificators to quit acting like Democrats Well that clears things up.
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You do know that the video is a hunt with the purpose of promoting a longrange shooting system. It is not just a 12 year old taking pop shots at game way out there. https://www.gunwerks.com/why-gunwerks
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What difference does that make?
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You do know that the video is a hunt with the purpose of promoting a longrange shooting system. It is not just a 12 year old taking pop shots at game way out there. https://www.gunwerks.com/why-gunwerks As far as I’m concerned, the fact that it was done in large part if not in totality for the reason you state simply tends to affirm and emphasize that: A: The intent was to make a long shot. B. There was no attempt to get closer. C. The elk was merely an unwilling and unknowing participant in a video intended to promote Gunwerks’ products. D. Everyone involved in the video was perfectly willing to risk wounding the elk rather than attempting to make sure of a clean, first shot kill. E. It was a “shooting” not a “hunt”. F. “Fair chase” was not any part of the shooting.
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Coyote hunter. I am unsure about "fair chase"? How does proximity of shooter or lack thereof disqualify one from "fair chase"?
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Like it or not, "Fair Chase" does have to be considered. Is 1400 yards fair chase? I say no, but how do you qualify what is?
If you look in the Pope and Young record books, you will see * by some kills, which identifies the let off of a particular bow that was used to kill the animal. Although it was still killed with a bow, there has been recognition to the advantage of the hunter compared to other record book entries.
Where fair chase ends and equipment takes over needs to be identified as it does exist...
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