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How about hunting from a tree stand?
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Coyote hunter. I am unsure about "fair chase"? How does proximity of shooter or lack thereof disqualify one from "fair chase"? As stated in my post, I was expressing my opinions. Another is that range per se is neither a qualifier nor a disqualifier for “fair chase”. The longer the range, though, I harder it is to convince me that “fair chase” is involved. If I see elk at 2 miles, is it “fair chase” to use a 105mm howitzer to take one? Good luck getting everyone to agree as to what constitutes “fair chase”. My guess is that the video was a staged event from the word “go”. The elk were probably on that hillside every day and the shooting spot was, IMNSHO, chosen for the range above all else.
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Clearly unethical, since it involves using technology to defeat the animal's senses. You need to be down on the ground, where the animal has a fair chance to detect you.
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How about hunting from a tree stand?
I don't understand why people climb those things.....you can fall out and get hurt.  But make no mistake....deer do look up! 
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The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Clearly unethical, since it involves using technology to defeat the animal's senses. You need to be down on the ground, where the animal has a fair chance to detect you. Exactly. I'd like to know what natural predators to deer and elk live in and hunt from trees.
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Clearly unethical, since it involves using technology to defeat the animal's senses. You need to be down on the ground, where the animal has a fair chance to detect you. Anything that increases the kill range helps defeat an animals senses. everyone that uses a firearm or a bow or even a lance uses technology to help defeat the quarries senses and is therefore "unethical"?
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No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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That's not what I'm saying. We all use technology to some degree. It's just that some want to draw a line beyond which fair chase ends. Usually, just beyond where they choose to fall on the continuum.
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Age does not matter, I don't like the long range hunting game. For many, it seems the trophy is the distance. Too much can go wrong at 100 yards, this increases the risk. Animals deserve better. AGREED!!!
I prefer classic.
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We have the scopes
We have the rifles.
We have the bullets
We have the skills.
That 12 year old might be defending your country in a few years knocking them scum bags jihadists in your own backyard. Don't discourage them. LOL
It is better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6.
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We have the scopes
We have the rifles.
We have the bullets
We have the skills.
That 12 year old might be defending your country in a few years knocking them scum bags jihadists in your own backyard. Don't discourage them. LOL I hope not! First shot kills are an important component when shooting Muzzies...
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Boy I'm glad mountain lions don't climb trees and jump on elk...
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That outfit has the stench of John Burns. Too many variables involved not to wound a lot more animals than kill.
I do recall Burns and a shooter with a pile of ejected empty cases laying around and the shooter finally hits the target. Never did remember seeing Burns make a game recovery.
All that said, if one can do it with regularity, do it.
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I do recall Burns and a shooter with a pile of ejected empty cases laying around How many dead animals?
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Boy I'm glad mountain lions don't climb trees and jump on elk... Shizzamm Gomer!!
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I do recall Burns and a shooter with a pile of ejected empty cases laying around How many dead animals? My point exactly... Shoot and shoot until you connect with the only one there. He doesn't know he's being shot at. If there is finally a hit, that's the only shot shown, and no video of a recovery.
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Clearly unethical, since it involves using technology to defeat the animal's senses. You need to be down on the ground, where the animal has a fair chance to detect you. And be chunkin spears...
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I do recall Burns and a shooter with a pile of ejected empty cases laying around How many dead animals? My point exactly... Shoot and shoot until you connect with the only one there. He doesn't know he's being shot at. If there is finally a hit, that's the only shot shown, and no video of a recovery. No hunting with supressors either...
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