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I have used his data/method from 222 to 338 Mag.
Most guns liked it ok to great some did NOT.
I calculated the ratio of volume for the 30-06 to 7.7X58 and then started working up a load in the 7.7.
As it worked out the "exact" ration was most precise load in both calibers.
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Thanks, Seafire, I knew you'd come in out of the rain at some point. Your data pretty much affirms my experience as to where the sweet spot is with BD in the 223, the speed curve really tightens up in that 13,14 grain range.
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Tag for academic research
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feel free to rattle my cage on this stuff...
a favorite topic of mine... and pretty much where I spend my off season time.. at the load bench developing and in the field testing on a zillion of Oregon's mini ground grizzlys....
sure is a lot of fun...
Great way to keep your off season trigger finger and shooting eye in tune.. for a nominal cost and easy of the rifle barrel...
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Pretty amazing stuff here.
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Pretty amazing stuff here. I plagiarizer all of my load data from Schtick...but don't tell anyone... That is what makes it amazing and awesome... nothing more, nothing less...
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anyone interested in 243 reduced load data?
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Bring it all with you on paper if you come to Quemado this summer.
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anyone interested in 243 reduced load data? Yes give us some of your 243 load, been using the 223 loads you posted
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anyone interested in 243 reduced load data? +2
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I used Blue Dot in 243 as well as 223 for quieter short range stuff. Never near these suggested levels though. It works well. Quiet. Effective. Also tried Red Dot in 223, thinking faster = cheaper = more efficient.False economy. You must be extremely cautious reloading shotgun powders in rifle cartridges. It is so easy to double charge a case and blow up your gun (if not your face.) Not at all obvious visually. I did it. Lost a beautiful little Sako - and all confidence in my ability to stay focused, even loading one at a time off a Lyman automatic dispenser. It froze up, flashed an error message and somehow I forgot to dump the shell before starting over. You can space out using regular rifle powders and note your mistake immediately. Reduced loads with shotgun/pistol powders imply additional inherent danger. It may be safe. But Idiot proof yourself first. Be extra careful! PS I now own a 22 mag instead.
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Wow. Glad to hear you weren't hurt. I appreciate you sharing with us what happened.
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you are more than welcome....
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When charging cases I zip through them all using a powder measure, checking every 5th or 10th charge on the scale. Then, before going one step further, I use a pen light and visually inspect the powder level in each case. Then I go back and do it again. If I'm using a particularly light charge I'll do it a third time. I'm not anal about much in this life but of this I am. During almost 50 years of handloading I've never had a wreck due to this procedure...knock on wood!
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With blue dot I dump a charge and seat that bullet so I don't double charge. I just picked up 12 cans (6 3\4 pounds) of Trail Boss so will be using that up on my reduced loads, that will give me close to 6000 rounds, should last me awhile
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Yes I'm interested in reduced .243 load data. Thanks so much. Don
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There was a reason Herters sold red & white loading blocks.
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