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"Ladder" day saints..poor cummins, bet he still hasnt figured it out.
dont know when they were invented.
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All that is being stated is that Mormonism and Christianity are not the same religion, because at their doctrinal core they actually believe different methods for salvation.
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All that is being stated is that Mormonism and Christianity are not the same religion, because at their doctrinal core they actually believe different methods for salvation. Yes. No slight against any religion. Mormons are Mormons. Christians are Christians. Their beliefs do not allow them to mix or be considered the same religion. Anybody who says so is terribly misinformed. BTW, most Christians do consider Mormons to be Christians.. Just shows you how misinformed most Christians are. Beck is an idiot.
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All that is being stated is that Mormonism and Christianity are not the same religion, because at their doctrinal core they actually believe different methods for salvation. I'm not sure that they believe in different methods. The methods are the same. It is just that Christians place their faith in the Jesus of the Bible while Mormons place their faith in the Jesus of the Book of Mormon. The objects of faith are different.
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I just hope Christ is a lot more forgiving than his followers.
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You Jesus freaks are an odd lot. Can someone tell me how old a religion has to be, to not be considered a cult? 400 years, older maybe? The answers will be funny  When were ladders invented? The nerd in me (which is most of me) loves questions like this. I went off to google-land and discovered the oldest depiction of a ladder dates back 10,000 years.
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You Jesus freaks are an odd lot. Can someone tell me how old a religion has to be, to not be considered a cult? 400 years, older maybe? The answers will be funny When were ladders invented? The nerd in me (which is most of me) loves questions like this. I went off to google-land and discovered the oldest depiction of a ladder dates back 10,000 years. Impossible. The earth is only 6000 years old, give or take a few weeks...
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Saying Mormons aren't Christians is likely the nicest thing I've heard anyone say about Mormons! I'd be flattered if I was a Mormon! 
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Traditional cristianism is based on Paul, a forward prophet, fell in the dirt, saw the white light, Jesus appeared before him, he made a worldwide church. Mormonism is based on Smith, a forward prophet, fell and saw the white light, Jesus appeared before him, he made a worldwide church.
My Dad grew up mormon but left the church and we were heavily involved with the semi nondenominational christian church. Central Christian Church was/is the name of our church, we also helped build sister churches in the community starting in school auditoriums and building the physical church itself.
My uncle and cousins are LDS bishops, I was taught in my church how to battle the hypocrisy of mormonism claims to christianity. I had some epic battles with my relatives.
Also was taught how Catholicism was wrong on many levels.. probably nazarenes and all the rest. I met my wife in a Nazarene church... lol
When I was a freshman in HS it was decided I would be groomed for the ministry, the Dr's of our churches wanted to start a seminary class at the HS just like the LDS had. The LDS had a building across the street the had classes in during school hours, so our church leaders asked if they could use the building for one period, and were given the go ahead. Yet many times in that class the instructor who was one of our different ministers on any given day, would disparage the very benefactors of the building we were using. And smug about it.
I was a trial for those that thought I could be brainwashed into the system, I know they think they failed but instead I came to a much better understanding of Christ and the Holy Spirit.
I have been in almost every kind of church there is including LDS and most recent Catholic. They are all pretty much the same... and the truth is you bring God with you.
Christ is inclusive and loves all his brothers and sisters... no matter the label.
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Saying Mormons aren't Christians is likely the nicest thing I've heard anyone say about Mormons! I'd be flattered if I was a Mormon! Luckily, 99% of Christians aren't Christian.
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I just hope Christ is a lot more forgiving than his followers. He is. FWIW-- I will take a Mormon as a neighbor at any time -- good folks.
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All that is being stated is that Mormonism and Christianity are not the same religion, because at their doctrinal core they actually believe different methods for salvation. I'm not sure that they believe in different methods. The methods are the same. It is just that Christians place their faith in the Jesus of the Bible while Mormons place their faith in the Jesus of the Book of Mormon. The objects of faith are different. But they ain't the same Jesus. One Jesus is God. The other Jesus is a God, separate from the head god. Two completely different beliefs. Different Jesus. One religion believes in 1 God. The other religion believes in multiple gods. Again, two completely different religions. Monotheism and Polytheism. How people are saved.. Completely different. Not even in the same ballpark. Views of heaven and hell.. Completely different. And, I could go on and on. I have no idea how anybody who actually knows anything about the two could possibly say they are even similar. It is beyond me how Mormons would want to be called "Christian", given how different they made their beliefs.
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All that is being stated is that Mormonism and Christianity are not the same religion, because at their doctrinal core they actually believe different methods for salvation. I'm not sure that they believe in different methods. The methods are the same. It is just that Christians place their faith in the Jesus of the Bible while Mormons place their faith in the Jesus of the Book of Mormon. The objects of faith are different. But they ain't the same Jesus. One Jesus is God. The other Jesus is a God, separate from the head god. Two completely different beliefs. Different Jesus. One religion believes in 1 God. The other religion believes in multiple gods. Again, two completely different religions. Monotheism and Polytheism. How people are saved.. Completely different. Not even in the same ballpark. Views of heaven and hell.. Completely different. And, I could go on and on. I have no idea how anybody who actually knows anything about the two could possibly say they are even similar. It is beyond me how Mormons would want to be called "Christian", given how different they made their beliefs. Your stance is based on a falsehood, it falls apart from there. The Mormons don't believe in 3 gods, it's 1 god. They don't worship Jesus and they don't worship the holy ghost. They do believe they are 3 separate entities though.
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All that is being stated is that Mormonism and Christianity are not the same religion, because at their doctrinal core they actually believe different methods for salvation. I'm not sure that they believe in different methods. The methods are the same. It is just that Christians place their faith in the Jesus of the Bible while Mormons place their faith in the Jesus of the Book of Mormon. The objects of faith are different. But they ain't the same Jesus. One Jesus is God. The other Jesus is a God, separate from the head god. Two completely different beliefs. Different Jesus. One religion believes in 1 God. The other religion believes in multiple gods. Again, two completely different religions. Monotheism and Polytheism. How people are saved.. Completely different. Not even in the same ballpark. Views of heaven and hell.. Completely different. And, I could go on and on. I have no idea how anybody who actually knows anything about the two could possibly say they are even similar. It is beyond me how Mormons would want to be called "Christian", given how different they made their beliefs. Your stance is based on a falsehood, it falls apart from there. The Mormons don't believe in 3 gods, it's 1 god. They don't worship Jesus and they don't worship the holy ghost. They do believe they are 3 separate entities though. So, is Jesus God or not?
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All that is being stated is that Mormonism and Christianity are not the same religion, because at their doctrinal core they actually believe different methods for salvation. I'm not sure that they believe in different methods. The methods are the same. It is just that Christians place their faith in the Jesus of the Bible while Mormons place their faith in the Jesus of the Book of Mormon. The objects of faith are different. But they ain't the same Jesus. One Jesus is God. The other Jesus is a God, separate from the head god. Two completely different beliefs. Different Jesus. One religion believes in 1 God. The other religion believes in multiple gods. Again, two completely different religions. Monotheism and Polytheism. How people are saved.. Completely different. Not even in the same ballpark. Views of heaven and hell.. Completely different. And, I could go on and on. I have no idea how anybody who actually knows anything about the two could possibly say they are even similar. It is beyond me how Mormons would want to be called "Christian", given how different they made their beliefs. Does any of this S*** really matter when you find yourself swearing an oath to the Donald?
I retired from the Johns Manville asbestos pop tart factory in ‘59, and still never made the connection.—-Slumlord
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All that is being stated is that Mormonism and Christianity are not the same religion, because at their doctrinal core they actually believe different methods for salvation. I'm not sure that they believe in different methods. The methods are the same. It is just that Christians place their faith in the Jesus of the Bible while Mormons place their faith in the Jesus of the Book of Mormon. The objects of faith are different. But they ain't the same Jesus. One Jesus is God. The other Jesus is a God, separate from the head god. Two completely different beliefs. Different Jesus. One religion believes in 1 God. The other religion believes in multiple gods. Again, two completely different religions. Monotheism and Polytheism. How people are saved.. Completely different. Not even in the same ballpark. Views of heaven and hell.. Completely different. And, I could go on and on. I have no idea how anybody who actually knows anything about the two could possibly say they are even similar. It is beyond me how Mormons would want to be called "Christian", given how different they made their beliefs. wrong, there is only one jesus. he is the son of god, AKA as the only begotten son, thats in the bible in numerous places. have you read any of it? you know the bible? oh never mind I am sure your a trump voter. that explains everything.
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I know exactly what Christianity believes. Sounds like you know exactly what Mormonism believes.
Two completely different religions, eh?
What I don't understand is why a group of folks split off from Christianity, changed all the essential beliefs, created their own religion, now want to be called "Christian"?
If you are a Mormon, say "I'm a Mormon". That's fine, and the world will be fine with it. I'll still be your friend.
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All that is being stated is that Mormonism and Christianity are not the same religion, because at their doctrinal core they actually believe different methods for salvation. I'm not sure that they believe in different methods. The methods are the same. It is just that Christians place their faith in the Jesus of the Bible while Mormons place their faith in the Jesus of the Book of Mormon. The objects of faith are different. But they ain't the same Jesus. One Jesus is God. The other Jesus is a God, separate from the head god. Two completely different beliefs. Different Jesus. One religion believes in 1 God. The other religion believes in multiple gods. Again, two completely different religions. Monotheism and Polytheism. How people are saved.. Completely different. Not even in the same ballpark. Views of heaven and hell.. Completely different. And, I could go on and on. I have no idea how anybody who actually knows anything about the two could possibly say they are even similar. It is beyond me how Mormons would want to be called "Christian", given how different they made their beliefs. Your stance is based on a falsehood, it falls apart from there. The Mormons don't believe in 3 gods, it's 1 god. They don't worship Jesus and they don't worship the holy ghost. They do believe they are 3 separate entities though.So, is Jesus God or not? In my original post, in bold.
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Traditional cristianism is based on Paul, a forward prophet, fell in the dirt, saw the white light, Jesus appeared before him, he made a worldwide church. Mormonism is based on Smith, a forward prophet, fell and saw the white light, Jesus appeared before him, he made a worldwide church.
My Dad grew up mormon but left the church and we were heavily involved with the semi nondenominational christian church. Central Christian Church was/is the name of our church, we also helped build sister churches in the community starting in school auditoriums and building the physical church itself.
My uncle and cousins are LDS bishops, I was taught in my church how to battle the hypocrisy of mormonism claims to christianity. I had some epic battles with my relatives.
Also was taught how Catholicism was wrong on many levels.. probably nazarenes and all the rest. I met my wife in a Nazarene church... lol
When I was a freshman in HS it was decided I would be groomed for the ministry, the Dr's of our churches wanted to start a seminary class at the HS just like the LDS had. The LDS had a building across the street the had classes in during school hours, so our church leaders asked if they could use the building for one period, and were given the go ahead. Yet many times in that class the instructor who was one of our different ministers on any given day, would disparage the very benefactors of the building we were using. And smug about it.
I was a trial for those that thought I could be brainwashed into the system, I know they think they failed but instead I came to a much better understanding of Christ and the Holy Spirit.
I have been in almost every kind of church there is including LDS and most recent Catholic. They are all pretty much the same... and the truth is you bring God with you.
Christ is inclusive and loves all his brothers and sisters... no matter the label.
Kent Christianity is based on Jesus Christ and nobody else. This is the God of the Bible, God the Son. God the Son is One with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost. Paul was an inspired man but was NOT the basis for the Christian religion. Jesus is fully God and fully man as well. Christians believe this and the fact that Jesus was sinless but put to death for crimes he didn't commit and rose from the dead. We further believe He is fully able to save us from our sins due to his sacrifice which God the Father accepts for us, enabling us to be with Jesus in eternity after we ourselves are resurrected. Anybody who believes in Jesus receives the gift of faith which is all it takes to escape hell. Paul, no offense to him, was just another believer.
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