Absolute dipshit. Any head shot is extremely risky at best. Really only advisable when no other shot is available while trying to put a wounded animal down. There are a quite a number of these guys out there that lack woods smarts and any type of reasoning ability. Disgusted. Darrel Wick
I may have been aiming for a chess shot. But due to is inability to hit it in the ear.
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Yes I was aiming at the head, which is where it hit. I understand if that's not everyone's cup of tea, but I wouldn't have taken the shot if I wasn't confident that I would hit it. Distance to target is irrelevant without the understanding and practice it takes to make a shot. How many deer get they're jaws blown off at 100yds? I'd say far more than there are at 900yds, for two reasons I suggest; not many people practice hunting at that range, and secondly those that do hunt in the realm of 100 yds are far more numerous a group, and that group likely includes the portion of hunters with shall we say less dedication. Thereby resulting in far more wounded/unrecovered animals.
I certainly dont mean to imply that headshots at this or any distance is unethical, that is up each individual. For every hunter, there is another hunter who disagrees with the first's practices. I only worry about what I can control.
You've stated the problem succinctly without even realizing it; you believe ethics are a matter of individual perspective when that is the exact opposite of ethics. Out of curiosity do you run the rest of your life in a similar fashion? You, you, you with every decision rationalized with you at the center of it all? People like yourself do the rest of the hunting community a huge disservice. Whether you think or can hit at that range demonstrates no small amount of skill and an equal amount of luck but it isn't part of the sporting ethic which it seems you don't know much about. Just because one can does not mean one should. When you actually understand this you will be on the road to ethical behavior.
Well, not entirely - just started seeing the OP around after a lengthy hiatus and would hate for anyone to have missed his magnificent display of sporting ethics.
Here is a head shot gone wrong and since this was a shotgun state it was relatively short range,, nostril shot off and destroyed everything above the upper palate which allowed him to eat. He was shot at least a year or more ago since he was fully healed and you can see his skull exposed and the skin fused to it. And believe it or not he was attempting to breed a doe. The hunter was my hunting buddy. We inspected him and he bore a nice set of antlers he was underweight for a deer of his age and to add to his misery his rear quarter was infected from a recent 22 lead bullet [img]https://imgur.com/GDmcolz[/img]
Last edited by raamw; 09/11/21.
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Head shots are not unethical or poor percentage some of the time. I limit mine to 30 yards or less, on non-moving moose, or finishing shots close up.
My last one on moose was about 15 yards, using the snow machine windscreen as a rest. It's do-able..... at least with a 3.5-10X scope set on 6.....
The one before that was a near miss - about 20 yards, offhand, head on. He ducked and started to turn to run just as I shot. Took the top of his brain pan off instead of 'tween the eyes. An inch higher, and I'd have had to wing shoot him with the second - but he wasn't going anywhere, much.
Yes I was aiming at the head, which is where it hit. I understand if that's not everyone's cup of tea, but I wouldn't have taken the shot if I wasn't confident that I would hit it. Distance to target is irrelevant without the understanding and practice it takes to make a shot. How many deer get they're jaws blown off at 100yds? I'd say far more than there are at 900yds, for two reasons I suggest; not many people practice hunting at that range, and secondly those that do hunt in the realm of 100 yds are far more numerous a group, and that group likely includes the portion of hunters with shall we say less dedication. Thereby resulting in far more wounded/unrecovered animals.
I certainly dont mean to imply that headshots at this or any distance is unethical, that is up each individual. For every hunter, there is another hunter who disagrees with the first's practices. I only worry about what I can control.
Taking head shots on unwounded elk at 900yds is stupid.
Personally I think you went for the chest and missed. The elk was unlucky and had it's head in the way of the bullet.
I watched most of your other videos and nothing there showed a skill level necessary to reliably make first round hits on sub MOA targets at 900yds.
Feel free to hang some other evidence that would show you have in the past proven you have such skill.
I agree. The "margin of error" he speaks of at 900 yards on a head shot is nil. Really- at 900 yards in the field, can anyone place a bullet within an inch, or at most two, of intended with absolute (call it 90%) confidence on a "head shot" ?. I don't think so. Lucky shot. Really stupid if that was the intent, but still a lucky shot.
I've made a couple "lucky shots" , myself. Not stupid- just AFU...I try to avoid them.
But I don't lie about them.
Usually. Less so since I quit alcohol.
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She spined him at 200 with '06, not where she was aiming, she said - I suspect she deliberately held high as he looked like he (small 2 yr bull) was a long ways away. And who believes a range-finder in her husband's hand? She hit him where the crosshairs were, but maybe not where she thought they were. Of course.
I'll take lucky ( but never count on it!) , if the wounded animal is recovered.
I finished him at 20 with .260. He wasn't going anywhere.
Yes I was aiming at the head, which is where it hit. I understand if that's not everyone's cup of tea, but I wouldn't have taken the shot if I wasn't confident that I would hit it. Distance to target is irrelevant without the understanding and practice it takes to make a shot. How many deer get they're jaws blown off at 100yds? I'd say far more than there are at 900yds, for two reasons I suggest; not many people practice hunting at that range, and secondly those that do hunt in the realm of 100 yds are far more numerous a group, and that group likely includes the portion of hunters with shall we say less dedication. Thereby resulting in far more wounded/unrecovered animals.
I certainly dont mean to imply that headshots at this or any distance is unethical, that is up each individual. For every hunter, there is another hunter who disagrees with the first's practices. I only worry about what I can control.
Thats bullchit Are you saying you can control your bullet at that range to within a couple of inches ? All of the time ,most of the time? Bullchit
Originally Posted by Josh Sorensen
I agree with bcraig. That shot if placed in the boiler room would have been impressive. That shot intentionaly aiming for the head is the ultimate form of hubris. What possible reason is there for taking the lowest percentage shot at any range. If you want to brag and prove how good you are at long range bang steel. I’d be impressed if you were shooting a 5” steel gong at 900 yards, it takes the same amount of skill without the chance of wounding an animal.
There is a difference between a hunter and a shooter. A hunter should respect the animal enough to take the high percentage shot every time.
Immaturity. Compensation for other things… Thats why people make decisions like this.
You never see or hear about the long cripple shots. Like the degenerate gambler that brags about hitting a horse for 10 grand, but doesn't mention the 20 large he lost the day before. I know, i know, they practice all year, sending thousands of rounds down range perfecting their skills. That's BS. Tell me, how does one dope for multiple wind changes or animal movement during time of flight at these extreme distances. A 900 yd head shot? That's just irresponsible and a lack of respect.
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Wasn’t there another video floating around here on the forum of a (called) 700 yard antelope head shot?
I find the antelope video shot and subsequent laughter distasteful— I take it, he didn’t expect to hit it which means he could have hit it poorly — as I do all sniping at “long range” big game that isn’t already hit. For what reason? I can’t think of any good ones that fit with the concept of hunting and respect for the game animal.
You never see or hear about the long cripple shots. Like the degenerate gambler that brags about hitting a horse for 10 grand, but doesn't mention the 20 large he lost the day before.
You never see or hear about the short cripple shots, either. How is that any different? Either you KNOW you can make the shot, or you don't. There are plenty of hunters that take shots outside of their window of capability, regardless of what that is.
Originally Posted by eaglemountainman
I know, i know, they practice all year, sending thousands of rounds down range perfecting their skills. That's BS. Tell me, how does one dope for multiple wind changes or animal movement during time of flight at these extreme distances.
Send a few thousand rounds down range in similar conditions, and you'll figure it out. LOL
Spend some time observing animal behaviour, and you'll also figure out when to shoot and when not to shoot.
I'm not condoning a 900-yard intentional headshot (which I don't think this was), but the general demonizing of capable hunters taking long shots that are within their capability window is a bit ridiculous.
It’s no surprise that anyone foolish enough to attempt such an irresponsible stunt on a game animal would also post it looking for attention. Congratulations Coldboremistake….. Now everyone here knows of your lack of honor and integrity. Just because YOU “think you can”, does not mean you should….. you as a hunter owe your quarry all the respect they deserve. They alone will pay the price of your bad decision. Always take the high odds shot- head shots at long range are anything but….
he hasn’t posted in the long range section since August 2021, and this was a thread that got started way back in 2015. Although I would definitely never try what he did, if you’re trying to get this guy‘s attention, I think that ship has sailed.
Xphunter, Was thinking that very thing……. There are a few here though that think that sort of behavior is quite alright….. maybe some of the posts made by more responsible and experienced hunters will resonate some. Cheers