Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Elk Hunting The 300 Wby Mag for elk- is there anything better?

Brad,
Years back when Allen Day shot the two buffalo using his 300, the ammo was factory WW using 180gr Fail Safe bullets. We had many phone conversations about that hunt as well as the ones we made together.
As for Echols not using freeborn in his Legends chambered to 300Wby, this is not completely true. He typically short throats them but one cannot load ammo that touches the lands and have it fit in his mag boxes. And they can handle most all of the Wby factory ammo w/o pressure troubles.

You know John, now that you say that, I do believe he was using the 180 FS, not the 180 Partition. It was along time ago. I have that kill on DVD.

I had 180 FS's fail to open from my 300 on a cow elk... tiny holes in and out, zero expansion. But she tipped over because both shots, from 325 yards, were within 6" of each other and both punched the lungs. However, she gave ZERO indication of having been hit.

I dislike mono's because of that other instances of failure to open.

I've shot several factory loads in mine with no issues. I recall Darcy mentioning one particular loading to avoid, but don't remember which one it was. I typically shoot game in the shoulder area, something the folks in Africa were adamant about. The mono bullets excel for that type of bullet placement, and for me they've produced some pretty dramatic drop in their tracks kills. If I were more of a chest cavity shooter I'd think the NP or similar bullets might show quicker effects. The high shoulder shot that imparts shock into or severes the spine is very reliable and provides zero tracking jobs. I like that!

I've shot several factory loads in mine with no issues. I recall Darcy mentioning one particular loading to avoid, but don't remember which one it was. I typically shoot game in the shoulder area, something the folks in Africa were adamant about. The mono bullets excel for that type of bullet placement, and for me they've produced some pretty dramatic drop in their tracks kills. If I were more of a chest cavity shooter I'd think the NP or similar bullets might show quicker effects. The high shoulder shot that imparts shock into or severes the spine is very reliable and provides zero tracking jobs. I like that!

I never had any issues with the factory loads using the original Lubalox-coated FS, but when Winchester replaced the Lubalox with molybdenum, I decided not to use those for hunting.

The one at the left was retrieved from a moose I shot with my .338 years ago. A 200-yard (or so) shot that broke the near shoulder bone clipped the heart's arteries, and stopped at the hide after hitting the far shoulder. The second is a 250-grain A-Frame from another moose I shot through the shoulder at about the same distance, maybe a little farther. While the front lead portion broke off the A-Frame, you can clearly see how well the jacket is fused to the lead. It's quite a tough bullet, but very expensive although I like it more that the softer NOS Partition for hunting in bear country.



I have only been able to retrieve that FS, and the A-Frame from moose. And all the Barnes 3-shock have passed right through and killed fast. I settled down to the 225-grain TTSX for all my hunting.

I would take a partition over either of those every day of the week. Wouldn't worry about the need to hit the shoulder blades to get abrupt kills either.

I use them because that is my preferred shot, and I know they will deliver. If I wanted something more conventional I'd use a North Fork or Swift, if choosing from currently available bullets.

Ray-
I tried the PGs right after they came out and could not see much difference in them and the regular version. Back in the early '90s I was using a lot of Jack Carter's Bear Claws, those were quite a good bullet. The North Forks have worked very much like them on the few animals I've used them on, big mushroom with 90%+ retained weight. If I were to switch off of the TTSXs I'd likely go straight to the NF because they are also super accurate and always hold together.