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Neither... A good old fashion 12 gauge pump action shotgun.
You can't beat that universal sound of a racking slide... followed by OH SHIZ, lets get outta here!
Load with #7 shot. Won't go through every wall in the house, yet will take out the bad guy at home defense ranges. Has anybody ever heard of a real life experience that involved a gun fight or violent act to be prevented after somebody heard a shotgun being racked? Travis Yes
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emphatic statements are often made without thinking, do you want to telegraph your location to anyone who wants to know where you are by making a vicious shotgun noise? So if you shoot your guns a bit, which one are you more familiar with? Which ever that one is, practice with it and use it and maintain familiarity with it.
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My BLK is quieter than the 223 suppressed. For use in the home, it would win. Of course it would be a Glock that would get real duty.
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Shotguns suck donkey balls.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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Shotguns suck donkey balls. Makes it pretty easy to tell who just read an article in a 1980's gun rag, and who actually hits the range to do some shooting.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Shotguns suck donkey balls. Is that an emphatic statement or just something casual? MM
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I like shotguns for pigs... kills lots of them at a time, and does a better job often than an AR can.
That said, I keep one of each by the bed... different things for different tasks....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I like shotguns for pigs... kills lots of them at a time, and does a better job often than an AR can.
That said, I keep one of each by the bed... different things for different tasks.... I like variety as well. Rifle, pistol, shotgun, blades. But for the big thumps in the night, the AR generally get the nod.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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for those of you who keep an AR within arms reach do you keep a round chambered or do you rely on your 2:00AM half asleep manual dexterity?
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ANY gun I"m going to consider using is loaded all the time.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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for those of you who keep an AR within arms reach do you keep a round chambered or do you rely on your 2:00AM half asleep manual dexterity? And do you keep ear muffs with it?
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Pro Ears gold maybe? Will that work? interesting an ar15 with a hot chamber next to your bed, sounds dangerous to me!
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for those of you who keep an AR within arms reach do you keep a round chambered or do you rely on your 2:00AM half asleep manual dexterity? And do you keep ear muffs with it? Yes.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Pro Ears gold maybe? Will that work? interesting an ar15 with a hot chamber next to your bed, sounds dangerous to me! LOL, my fire extinguishers have full charges too.....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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yes to both!
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for those of you who keep an AR within arms reach do you keep a round chambered or do you rely on your 2:00AM half asleep manual dexterity? And do you keep ear muffs with it? Pretty funny. Takes me back to the first time I shot my weapon while on duty. I have never in my life heard something as loud as a round being shot in a quiet neighborhood after midnight. I felt "dirty". Lol! Like I had done something wrong and the Police were going to hunt me down. Hell, I was the Police.
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The feeling is the least of it. The bleeding from the ears is what would concern me!
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I'd rather my ears bleed from an outgoing bullet than an incoming one...
My 21" Benelli is cumbersome in the hallway. My pistol has got the nod the one time I investigated a bump in the night. My AR was right there and ready but I felt better with the pistol that night.
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ears bleeding from an AR being fired? Yeah, no I don't see that happening, I want to be able to hear prior and hopefully after teh shot anyway.
Maybe a LOT of shooting from a SHORT barreled gun could be tough.
But most folks worry about crap that matters not in the big picture
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Gary O,
I bet ya when the window breaks at 2:00AM waking you from a sound sleep it will take you a moment to collect your wits let alone figure out your next move. Some amount of prior thought might want to be given.
Does sheet rock wall penetration worry you? I wonder about the comparative penetration of 00 buckshot, or the 30 cal 110s or 220s vs a 55 grain VMAX?
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