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Most Sanders voters I know detest Trump. But, they also detest Hillary. We need to keep them home.


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Originally Posted by isaac
Sanders voters most certainly will vote for Trump.


I don't know about that.

But they'll certainly stay at home.




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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Right he's a narcissist

And so is everyone else that puts up with that much crap and spends hundreds of millions of dollars to get a 4-8 year job that pays 450k a year !!!!!!!!
It is all about Ego and Personal Legacy, except maybe for Bernie he probably does not have enough set aside to retire.
His personal wealth is stated as less then one years salary for a Senator.....

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Originally Posted by Calvin
Most Sanders voters I know detest Trump. But, they also detest Hillary. We need to keep them home.


You stole my thunder.




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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by isaac

Democratic Strategist: Trump Will Beat Hillary Like ‘A Baby Seal’

ALEX PFEIFFER

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10:27 PM 04/27/2016

Democratic strategist Dave “Mudcat” Saunders believes Donald Trump will beat Hillary Clinton like a “baby seal,” and that working class whites who haven’t already left the Democratic Party for cultural reasons will due so now for economic ones.

“I know a ton of Democrats — male, female, black and white — here [in southern Virginia] who are going to vote for Trump. It’s all because of economic reasons. It’s because of his populist message,” Mudcat told The Daily Caller Wednesday.

Saunders has experience working with Jim Webb, helping getting him elected to the U.S Senate in 2006 and advised his failed bid for the presidency in 2016. Saunders was also an advisor to John Edwards in his 2008 presidential bid. The Democrat strategist is renowned for connecting politicians to “Bubbas” — white, working class Southerners.

“Working class whites in the South have already departed the Democratic Party for cultural reasons. Well the working class whites in the North are now deserting the Democrats because of economic reasons,” Mudcat told TheDC. He added, “this is the new age of economic populism, man. This is about survival for a lot of people.”

Hillary Clinton, throughout the Democratic primary, has relied heavily on the black vote, she has struggled to gain support from white men. In the SEC primary, she didn’t win over 60 percent of the white vote in any of the six states. She did however gain over 80 percent of the black vote in all of them. There has been one demographic this cycle that Clinton has lost consistently to Sanders — white men.

“I know less than half a dozen white male Democrats in my part of the world who are going to vote for Hillary,” Saunders told TheDC.

He added, “Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump have very similar messages, they’re just dressed in different clothes. I think you’re going to see a lot of Sanders people jump to Trump.”

When Sanders entered the primary he made a pledge to not go negative. This has hurt him as even the slightest attacks on Hillary have created a strong reaction from the Clinton campaign. When he called her unqualified to be president, Hillary’s spokesman, Brian Fallon, said it was “a new low.”

“Hillary hasn’t been shot at yet. I hear on TV people taking about Bernie Sanders being negative, he ain’t attack her, he just tapped on her,” Mudcat said. He added, “Trump’s going to take a wire-brush to her.”

Both Trump and Clinton have unfavorable ratings in polls, both at near 60 percent. Mudcat said, “I think [Trump] can drive her negs to 80.”

He thinks Trump will win the general election and said, “he’s going to knock her around like a baby seal.”

Paul Begala, adviser to pro-Clinton super PAC Priorities USA Action, refuted this sentiment, telling TheDC, “She has taken more incoming fire than a redneck rifle range — and she’s still standing. No one better to stand up to the bully Trump – who has gotten nothing but air-kisses from his weakling GOP opponents.”

“Hillary is going to be President. I hope Mudcat picks out a nice dress to wear to the inaugural ball,” Begala added.

Mudcat says that Trump will bring up quid pro quo with the Clinton foundation and foreign nations, something that has not been brought up so far this election by Sanders. One theme that Trump will share with the Vermont senator is knocking Hillary on NAFTA and her support for China’s “favored nation status” in trade.

“I think she’s going to have to say NAFTA was a mistake, favored nation status for China was a mistake,” Mudcat told TheDC. The Democratic strategist added, “unless she just says these are all screw-ups, which I question that she will do, there’s no way she’s going to get working class people.”

Trump won every county Tuesday in Pennsylvania and performed strongly throughout the Rust Belt, Mudcat sees this happening the general. “I don’t know how in the hell she’s going to win Ohio and Pennsylvania.” He added that Virginia, his home-state, is definitely a “swing state now.”

It was reported Tuesday that union leaders are worried about Trump’s appeal to workers. Richard Trumpka, president of AFL-CIO, said, “Trump isn’t interested in solving the problems he yells and swears about. He delivers punch lines, but there’s nothing funny about them.”

Mudcat, however, sees Trump gaining the support of rank-and-file members. “It’s compelling for working class people who have always followed their union to hear a guy who’s pro gun and pro economic fairness.”

“They’re going to have take a long look at him,” the Democratic strategist added.


I read this whole thing.


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Originally Posted by Calvin


Trust me, Bernie supporters will never vote Trump. But, we might convince them to not vote at all.



Not even close to the truth. You can see it happening all over the web, places like Reddit etc. They switch to the next outsider.

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Fortunately, the Sanders supporters I know are professional victims. By stoking those feelings and making them feel like Hitlary "stole" the nomination, they will pout and stay at home.

The narrative should be: Hillary was chosen FOR you, and your vote doesn't matter.

That will put the professional victims into a tailspin.

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We're gonna win bigly, believe me. I know about winning and we're gonna win so big, you won't even believe it.




Travis


We will win, so, so big. People, let me tell you. I win, all the time. I win, I do. But let me tell you people, we are going to win so bigly, that the aliens that built the pyramids are going to come back and change the face on the sphinx. They're going to put my face on the sphinx, and Mexico is going to pay for it.

It's true.

Thank you.

I love The aliens, I do. I poll very well with the aliens, and also the Hispanics.

They say Donald, you're so angry. But I'm not, I would never say that. But I am.

Did you see Ted? With the ring?

Oh Ted... It's a hoop, a hoop Ted. I don't know folks, I guess they do it different in Canada.




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Originally Posted by jnyork
I intend to vote against Hillary, no matter. I will encourage my friends and neighbors to do the same.

It is, however , a lost cause. Hillary will win. Several million Republicans will stay home, just like the last two times, because our candidate does not agree with every tiny point of their political philosophies, the candidate not being "pure" enough for them.

Sad.


Very sad.


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And Trump knows it, as well.

Why do you think he's been sticking up for the guy the past 2 months?


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I have not met a Sanders supporter that does not loathe Trump.





Travis


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by deflave
I have not met a Sanders supporter that does not loathe Trump.





Travis

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Just the opposite for me.


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Originally Posted by Calvin
Most Sanders voters I know detest Trump. But, they also detest Hillary. We need to keep them home.


Good thing about the Millenials is if things are not going their way the will sit home and pout about how bad this country is and and how it is unfair.. But sit home they will!!!!!! laugh

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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
I fought hard and voted for Cruz and still think he is the best and most conservative candidate running.

Unfortunately the writing is on the wall and it's time for me to pull the plug and will vote and support the Rep nominee which barring a major gaff will be Trump.

Should Trump fall just shy of 1237 he should be able to rangle the few delegates needed to attain 1237 and win the nomination on the 1st ballot.
I think should he be denied the nomination it will be detrimental to the Republican candidate and will be a certain loss to Hillary

I still don't think he beats Hillary in November but he has a better chance than Cruz at this point.I don't imagine Trump being a team player and supporting a nominee if he is denied.
I do beleive Cruz will coalesce and end up supporting Trump rather than have Hillary run away with the election,supreme court and the country.

I'll take the bad medicine and swallow it rather than eating the lump of crap that is Hillary.

I should hope everyone here and in the rest of the country is rational,reasonable,thoughtful and puts the greater good in front of personal dislikes and differences.

I hope I'm wrong about Trump not being able to beat Hillary and wrong about him not having changed his spots. I'll take little solace in "I told ya so's"
I'll be quite content being wrong on both parts

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I'd like to go on record and say that I agree completely.

I think I would have preferred Cruz, but it is time that the Republicans grew up and got behind Trump.



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Originally Posted by Calvin
Most Sanders voters I know detest Trump. But, they also detest Hillary. We need to keep them home.


The ones that I know and talk to all say its Sanders as first choice, Trump as second choice, and Hillary never.

Several sources have said up to 30-40% of Sanders supporters either won't vote Hillary, or will vote Trump.

That is the reason Trump has been talking about how Bernie has gotten a bad deal from the DNC, how Bernie's crowds have been impressive, and the primary system's are crooked, etc.

He's adding to the animosity of the Bernie voters against the Hillary voters and the DNC intentionally.

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Originally Posted by Calvin
Most Sanders voters I know detest Trump. But, they also detest Hillary. We need to keep them home.


The ones that I know and talk to all say its Sanders as first choice, Trump as second choice, and Hillary never.

Several sources have said up to 30-40% of Sanders supporters either won't vote Hillary, or will vote Trump.

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I'm not getting the disconnect with this, at all.


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Originally Posted by Calvin


Trust me, Bernie supporters will never vote Trump. But, we might convince them to not vote at all.



Oh, that practice is called Bristoe'ing, for the record. Maybe he can coach them up on how to stay home.

While I enjoy the optimism, It ain't happening for Trump. He'll get his ass handed to him.


BTW, there are no Bernie supporters in my neck of the woods.

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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by Calvin


Trust me, Bernie supporters will never vote Trump. But, we might convince them to not vote at all.



Oh, that practice is called Bristoe'ing, for the record. Maybe he can coach them up on how to stay home.

While I enjoy the optimism, It ain't happening for Trump. He'll get his ass handed to him.


BTW, there are no Bernie supporters in my neck of the woods.


Funny thing.

I didn't even know this knothead existed until he started doggin' me on the internet.

Ain't no figurin' some people.

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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by Calvin


Trust me, Bernie supporters will never vote Trump. But, we might convince them to not vote at all.



Oh, that practice is called Bristoe'ing, for the record. Maybe he can coach them up on how to stay home.

While I enjoy the optimism, It ain't happening for Trump. He'll get his ass handed to him.


BTW, there are no Bernie supporters in my neck of the woods.


Are you of the opinion that Cruz can beat her?

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Apparently, he's on the rag because I didn't vote for McCain or Romney.

I wouldn't vote for the azzholes today, either.

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