|
|
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,243
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,243 |
for Tomato plants and Rose bushes....
I'm not a big gardener but I do have a half dozen Tomato plants and about a dozen Rose bushes that I enjoy messing with....
I know there are plenty of plant specific fertilizers out there and that different plants need different nutrients but if there's one that would be good for both I'd sure like not to have to buy a lifetime supply of different products just to feed a few plants....
Any suggestions?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,878 Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,878 Likes: 3 |
10-10-10 50# bag should last you a long time. Rio7
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,324
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,324 |
10-20-10 is my vote I use it for all my veggies trees and flowers
There is a war on America and America is losing
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 53,303
Campfire Kahuna
|
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 53,303 |
This sorta' thing is REGION SPECIFIC, and is totally dependent on YOUR soil.
There's gotta' be a district Ag. office, or local grower's , gardener's organization that can give you a starting point / baseline.
GTC
Member, Clan of the Border Rats
-- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 19,822
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 19,822 |
for Tomato plants and Rose bushes....
I'm not a big gardener but I do have a half dozen Tomato plants and about a dozen Rose bushes that I enjoy messing with....
I know there are plenty of plant specific fertilizers out there and that different plants need different nutrients but if there's one that would be good for both I'd sure like not to have to buy a lifetime supply of different products just to feed a few plants....
Any suggestions? My Dad put 10-20-10 in the ground when he transplanted the tomato plants, and swore by fish when he was cultivating them later, when they started to bear fruit. He would put the fish heads, guts, scales, etc., along side the tomato hills, a couple of inches under. He always had better tomatoes than anyone else.  He used the 10-20-10 as regular fertilizer for roses and other ornamental flowers. Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,202
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,202 |
Without a soil test you're just guessing
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 15,885 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 15,885 Likes: 1 |
8-8-8 and triple 13 are probably the most widely used all purpose fertilizers.
Old Turd- Deplorable- Unrepentant Murderer- Domestic Violent Extremist
Just "Campfire Riffraff and Trash"
This will be my last post! Flave 1/3/21
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 16,710 Likes: 3
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 16,710 Likes: 3 |
Without a soil test you're just guessing Troof!
The deer hunter does not notice the mountains
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve" - Isoroku Yamamoto
There sure are a lot of America haters that want to live here...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,243
Campfire Ranger
|
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,243 |
Seems like a lot of trouble for a couple dozen plants....I'm trying to simplify things...not make more work for myself...HA
Nothing's ever easy though..is it...
Lots of farmers around here...I'll ask around or maybe stop at the co-op...
Thanks
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,798
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,798 |
phosphate and potash are two of the main ingredients that the plants and bushes need. Don't get too heavy with the nitrogen. I personally like 6-24-24.
maddog
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 19,108
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 19,108 |
13-13-13 is the local favorite and available near everywhere already bagged. I put a small amount under about everything that I plant. miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 19,213
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 19,213 |
Around here the most popular bagged fertilizer is 10-10-10, followed by 19-19-19. I will buy 6-24-24 when I can find it, and then buy a nitrogen fertilizer to use on sweet corn and tomatoes.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,243
Campfire Ranger
|
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,243 |
Around here the most popular bagged fertilizer is 10-10-10, followed by 19-19-19. I will buy 6-24-24 when I can find it, and then buy a nitrogen fertilizer to use on sweet corn and tomatoes. And now we're right back to buying multiple bags of fertilizer for a dozen or so plants.... I've read that tomato plants like nitrogen but why not just buy something with a higher percentage of nitrogen...or is it detrimental to other plants like roses...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,218
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,218 |
Get the soil tested, it's not that expensive, or buy a kit and do it yourownself.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,238
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,238 |
Miracle grow works great on most roses, unless they are rugosas which don't like anything on their leaves. You can buy a hose end sprayer bottle, add one bag of Miracle grow, and do all of it in about 15 minutes once a month.
"Put none but Americans on guard tonight."
-George Washington
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 19,213
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 19,213 |
Around here the most popular bagged fertilizer is 10-10-10, followed by 19-19-19. I will buy 6-24-24 when I can find it, and then buy a nitrogen fertilizer to use on sweet corn and tomatoes. And now we're right back to buying multiple bags of fertilizer for a dozen or so plants.... I've read that tomato plants like nitrogen but why not just buy something with a higher percentage of nitrogen...or is it detrimental to other plants like roses... There have been times when the only fertilizer I put on my tomatoes was the triple 10, and I made a good crop. Too much nitrogen can be just as bad as not enough. A little nitrogen fertilizer goes a long way. Corn needs it more than any other crop, while beans get by just fine with very little, or even none. I don't think you would hurt your other plants, as long as you don't over do it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,324
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,324 |
For what you are doing IMHO a soil test would be helpful but not necessary. Any fertilizer rated higher than 10-10-10 you go easy with. It is easy and tempting for those unfamiliar with fertilizer use to over do it. Asking knowledgeable locals is your best bet as they will know your soil type and what works best in your area.
Good luck.
There is a war on America and America is losing
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,243
Campfire Ranger
|
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,243 |
Around here the most popular bagged fertilizer is 10-10-10, followed by 19-19-19. I will buy 6-24-24 when I can find it, and then buy a nitrogen fertilizer to use on sweet corn and tomatoes. And now we're right back to buying multiple bags of fertilizer for a dozen or so plants.... I've read that tomato plants like nitrogen but why not just buy something with a higher percentage of nitrogen...or is it detrimental to other plants like roses... There have been times when the only fertilizer I put on my tomatoes was the triple 10, and I made a good crop. Too much nitrogen can be just as bad as not enough. A little nitrogen fertilizer goes a long way. Corn needs it more than any other crop, while beans get by just fine with very little, or even none. I don't think you would hurt your other plants, as long as you don't over do it. OK....that helps...thanks... Roses, tomatoes, and a few shrubs are all I have to worry about so I don't need a degree in Botany but a little knowledge never hurt anyone... I'm going to town Saturday and plan to stop at the co-op....someone there should be able to help.....course...they'll want to sell me a pallet of the stuff but it's either that or put my faith in the pimple faced kid at Home Depot...Ha Thanks again to everyone...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,920 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,920 Likes: 1 |
Test your soil and match to your crop. Best in my opinion is composted manure from cows, rabbits, and chickens. Fish emulsion is great as well but that is just me
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,243
Campfire Ranger
|
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,243 |
Test your soil and match to your crop. Best in my opinion is composted manure from cows, rabbits, and chickens. Fish emulsion is great as well but that is just me I have no doubt the organic composts you listed are good for any soil but what's the point in testing the soil when you have no idea how much of each nutrient needed is truly in each shovel of poop...or do you have all of it tested too....
|
|
|
|
|
590 members (007FJ, 204guy, 222Sako, 160user, 2500HD, 1lessdog, 58 invisible),
2,436
guests, and
1,159
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,527
Posts18,491,115
Members73,972
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
